Zatman Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Steero113 said: Perhaps the biggest overreaction from a "manager" to a bottle kick in football history. Such a massive shame if he goes. Gerrard's a mountain sized cock. In fairness Stevie Me never made a mistake that led to a goal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Wouldn't be surprised if Sanson has a France call up within the next 18 months. Criminally underused here while the trainee killed McGinns confidence by playing him further out of form each week 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted January 12, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted January 12, 2023 26 minutes ago, striker said: Hopefully the start of the midfield turnover at the Villa. Midfield turnover you say. Is Reo-Coker coming back? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, Zatman said: In fairness Stevie Me never made a mistake that led to a goal Exactly. At least two awful back passes as well as the slip, from Mr Mental Strength himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Tom13 said: Injuries limited his chances under Smith. And at that time he was new to the league as well. Gerrard destroyed his confidence by playing a badly performing McGinn over him no matter what, he had no match fitness/confidence by the time Unai came in. Ultimately I think Dean Smith could have helped his chances a little by a least trying to Sanson for an extended time. If you remember McGinn was under lots of criticism for his poor performances yet Smith continued to back him when many were calling for some change. Gerard compounded that further by playing odd formations and persisting with McGinn too. No wonder Sanson's confidence is shot to bits and he wants out. I don't blame him at all. By the way Montpellier and Avignon are as beautiful part of the world as you are likely to see, good luck to Monsieur Sanson. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: Ultimately I think Dean Smith could have helped his chances a little by a least trying to Sanson for an extended time. If you remember McGinn was under lots of criticism for his poor performances yet Smith continued to back him when many were calling for some change. Gerard compounded that further by playing odd formations and persisting with McGinn too. No wonder Sanson's confidence is shot to bits and he wants out. I don't blame him at all. By the way Montpellier and Avignon are as beautiful part of the world as you are likely to see, good luck to Monsieur Sanson. Sanson was barely available under Smith, he had a horrible run with injuries after appearing in his first 6 or so matches under him before his first injury. This situation is 95% down to Gerrard and his moronic freeze out over a bottle kicking incident and a shit back pass. Something, ironically, that Gerrard himself managed to turn into a meme. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post El-Reacho Posted January 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2023 35 minutes ago, Villa_Vids said: Lerner's tenure is the reason we still struggle today IMO, we are still recovering from it. That surely goes back to the early 1990's when Villa were in pole position to take advantage of the Premier League boom and become one of the world's biggest clubs like Manchester United did. Alex Ferguson predicted it would be ourselves and United that would become the dominant force in English football as the 90's progressed. Doug Ellis realised he could make a few quid for himself rather than give the club the (relatively small) backing it needed to realise its obvious potential. That's why we've been in the doldrums whilst United, Chelsea, Arsenal have hoovered up trophies. In the first season of the PL Villa and United were very similar clubs in terms of stature/size/success/history etc. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Steero113 said: Sanson was barely available under Smith, he had a horrible run with injuries after appearing in his first 6 or so matches under him before his first injury. This situation is 95% down to Gerrard and his moronic freeze out over a bottle kicking incident and a shit back pass. Something, ironically, that Gerrard himself managed to turn into a meme. He was also fit and available for many a match (under Smith) when McGinn failed to impress too, he was far from injured the whole time... Edit: I looked back and you are right @Steero113 he wasn't available much at the end of Smith's tenure. Edited January 12, 2023 by Zhan_Zhuang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 13 minutes ago, Zatman said: Wouldn't be surprised if Sanson has a France call up within the next 18 months. Criminally underused here while the trainee killed McGinns confidence by playing him further out of form each week I would! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I would! People said the same about Veretout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Zatman said: People said the same about Veretout He had age on his side and he’s only played the odd game for them. Sanson will never be good enough for France. He isn’t even good enough for Villa! Edited January 12, 2023 by Vive_La_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Just now, Vive_La_Villa said: He had age on his side and he’s only played the odd game for them. Samson will never be good enough for France. He isn’t even good enough for Villa! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Willard Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Don't think he got a fair crack of the whip. My only gripe is for a CM he was very one footed, similar to Hourihane. For a CM you need to be very two footed to help move the ball quicker. Glad to move him on for his own career and to create space in the squad and free up some wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 You don't get the most assists in Ligue 1 being as useless as some in here like to make out he is. Very sad he didn't get more game time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: Ultimately I think Dean Smith could have helped his chances a little by a least trying to Sanson for an extended time. If you remember McGinn was under lots of criticism for his poor performances yet Smith continued to back him when many were calling for some change. This again. Always always this. He was introduced slowly to the team as he himself said he needed to adapt to pace of Prem. He started 3 of 4 Prem games before he got injured. Sanson was injured for nearly the entire time he was here under Smith. He got a knee injury shortly after joining that kept him out for months. He then came on in EFL cup game in September when he just returned to fitness and injured himself again and was distressed going off. Smith was fired a month or so later A simple check if any football stats website takes 30 seconds yet we see this nonsense made up history of events repeatedly. Edited January 12, 2023 by CVByrne 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 18 minutes ago, Tom13 said: You don't get the most assists in Ligue 1 being as useless as some in here like to make out he is. Very sad he didn't get more game time. When did he have the most assists in ligue 1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, Laughable Chimp said: When did he have the most assists in ligue 1? 16/17 https://www.ligue1.com/ranking/assists?seasonId=2016-2017&StatsActiveTab=0 A few other sources state he got 14 rather than 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 31 minutes ago, CVByrne said: This again. Always always this. He was introduced slowly to the team as he himself said he needed to adapt to pace of Prem. He started 3 of 4 Prem games before he got injured. Sanson was injured for nearly the entire time he was here under Smith. He got a knee injury shortly after joining that kept him out for months. He then came on in EFL cup game in September when he just returned to fitness and injured himself again and was distressed going off. Smith was fired a month or so later A simple check if any football stats website takes 30 seconds yet we see this nonsense made up history of events repeatedly. And Chill. He was here three months before his first injury in April 2021 which admittedly seemed a bad knee injury... My point was McGinn was poor way before when Sanson got injured hence it would have been nice to see him play a bit more than a mere three to four games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Tom13 said: 16/17 https://www.ligue1.com/ranking/assists?seasonId=2016-2017&StatsActiveTab=0 A few other sources state he got 14 rather than 12. Oh he played for 2 different clubs this season. That's why he wasn't showing up on some assist charts. By the way I believe the 14 number is more accurate. The discrepancy seems from this match. He gets 2 assists here that some sites forgot to count for some reason. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXcrwC6Wzhk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 2 hours ago, Villa_Vids said: Nooo. No way. Don't say shite like that - Lerner destroyed this club. Well that’s true after a good start. But shit per day the Purslow/Slippy G combo can’t be underestimated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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