mikeyp102 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 On 11/04/2020 at 00:30, TRO said: Stourbridge, West Midlands played for Forest Falcons as a kid Nope he’s from Halesowen. His parents still live here 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan4Life Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 (edited) On 13/04/2020 at 17:00, Mat Kendrick's Dentist said: I'd go: Louie Barry Aaron Ramsey Jacob Ramsey Carney Chukwuemeka Jadon Philogene-Bidace On 13/04/2020 at 16:49, OutByEaster? said: So, your top five Academy prospects currently with the club in order then? I'd go: Kesler Philogene-Bidace Barry J Ramsey Bridge With apologies to a whole lot of talented players. @sir_gary_cahill, @Mat Kendrick's Dentist - your five? Mine (All Under 18's):- 1) Louie Barry 2) Kaine Kesler 3) Jadon Philogene-Bidace 4) Aaron Ramsey 5) Carney Chukwuemeka Edited April 25, 2020 by Villan4Life 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 4 hours ago, mikeyp102 said: Nope he’s from Halesowen. His parents still live here Yeah....your right, adjacent district. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 (edited) Some highlights of Philogene-Bidace in second slide... Edited June 2, 2020 by useless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 I saw Philogene-Bidace quite a lot for our u18s last season, he’s very quick, direct and skilful. As he gains more experience, he will add more end product to his game, he has a lot of potential Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 They're only very brief but was looking at some highlights on his instagram of one our U16 players called charlie lutz, looks like a very promising player... Also found this article on him on the Worcester News webstie... “This season he played left wing, right wing and finished off up front where he scored 22 goals which was 12 more than anyone else in the team,” Lutz said. They see him as a striker next year but who knows? They try to get them to understand football and gain awareness of where they need to be by playing them in different positions. He is both footed and really quick. They do sprint tests at Villa and apparently he is quicker than the under 16s at the moment. Charlie has been on Villa’s books since the age of eight but Lutz says his son is entering a “crucial” couple of years. He has got another two-year contract which will take him to the end of school and then the aim would be to get a scholarship,” Lutz said. That is when they can potentially earn money and who knows where they can go from there? It is going to be two years of hard graft. Eight or nine of his friends were released from his age group so it is getting to that stage where they do get a little bit more brutal when it comes to retaining and releasing players. One good thing that did happen was when he scored a hat-trick and assisted in an in-house game between the under 14s and 15s. Villa manager Dean Smith was watching it and was apparently asking about him so you never know.” 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Kendrick's Dentist Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 4 hours ago, useless said: They're only very brief but was looking at some highlights on his instagram of one our U16 players called charlie lutz, looks like a very promising player... Also found this article on him on the Worcester News webstie... “This season he played left wing, right wing and finished off up front where he scored 22 goals which was 12 more than anyone else in the team,” Lutz said. They see him as a striker next year but who knows? They try to get them to understand football and gain awareness of where they need to be by playing them in different positions. He is both footed and really quick. They do sprint tests at Villa and apparently he is quicker than the under 16s at the moment. Charlie has been on Villa’s books since the age of eight but Lutz says his son is entering a “crucial” couple of years. He has got another two-year contract which will take him to the end of school and then the aim would be to get a scholarship,” Lutz said. That is when they can potentially earn money and who knows where they can go from there? It is going to be two years of hard graft. Eight or nine of his friends were released from his age group so it is getting to that stage where they do get a little bit more brutal when it comes to retaining and releasing players. One good thing that did happen was when he scored a hat-trick and assisted in an in-house game between the under 14s and 15s. Villa manager Dean Smith was watching it and was apparently asking about him so you never know.” Interesting stuff. That article is from last summer, so I wonder how he's progressed since... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted June 6, 2020 Moderator Share Posted June 6, 2020 Anyone know anything about Patrick Zito, a young centre back with us? I'm hoping he's got some promise as I like the name Zito and he's a big fella. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 (edited) On 02/06/2020 at 11:08, useless said: Some highlights of Philogene-Bidace in second slide... Just that one bit that we spent 140 million and it's difficult for Youngsters to break through is what's pissing me the F off. Vassilev and Ramsey made appearances and I got excited then soon as the Injured came back they we sent back down, not on not bloody on. The 140 mill we spent and yet Vasilev and Ramsey for me shined way more in there appearances than Trezegeut, Ghazi, at least they showed fire, passion,wanting to change a game. Those two lads shown determination to want to change a games outcome, not walk off the pitch cus couldnt be arsed or get frustrated at every turn, they pressed on and got on with it. If we go down, I want youth to definitely get game time and be used more, would certainly love to see them get game time in the premier. There has to be a way into the first team for Youth and it should of happened the moment we had players who played so inconsistent. Drives me mad it does and for all we know they could set the team alight and move us I the right direction if played and utilised correctly on the pitch. Edited June 6, 2020 by Dave-R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 All I know about Zito is that he's a central defender, is very big - I don't think anyone will be saying that he 'needs to bulk up', has the same agent as Kortney Hause, and according transfermarkt he's contracted with us until 2021, also according to transfermarkt it seems he's only played in one match this season and has hardly been on the bench, usually Harrison Sohna plays as a central defender alongside one of Dialla, Appiah, or Sebasian Revan, maybe he's been injured. As an aside if Harrison and Myles Sohna are brothers than that's three sets of siblings that we have playing in our youth teams. As for Charlie Lutz, I have no idea how he's performed this season but looking at these highlights looks like a promising player. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted June 6, 2020 Moderator Share Posted June 6, 2020 33 minutes ago, useless said: As for Charlie Lutz, I have no idea how he's performed this season but looking at these highlights looks like a promising player. He looks a talent there. One to look out for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 I thought we spent 127 million in the summer? Why are everyone still reporting 140 Mill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 6 hours ago, OutByEaster? said: Anyone know anything about Patrick Zito, a young centre back with us? I'm hoping he's got some promise as I like the name Zito and he's a big fella. I saw him last season for our u18s, he looked like a capable centre back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 1 hour ago, useless said: All I know about Zito is that he's a central defender, is very big - I don't think anyone will be saying that he 'needs to bulk up', has the same agent as Kortney Hause, and according transfermarkt he's contracted with us until 2021, also according to transfermarkt it seems he's only played in one match this season and has hardly been on the bench, usually Harrison Sohna plays as a central defender alongside one of Dialla, Appiah, or Sebasian Revan, maybe he's been injured. As an aside if Harrison and Myles Sohna are brothers than that's three sets of siblings that we have playing in our youth teams. As for Charlie Lutz, I have no idea how he's performed this season but looking at these highlights looks like a promising player. I saw Patrick Zito for our u18s a few times last season, he looked good I haven’t heard the name Charlie Lutz before, that’s a new one on me, he looks good though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 3 hours ago, KenjiOgiwara said: I thought we spent 127 million in the summer? Why are everyone still reporting 140 Mill? According Transfermarkt we spent about €140m-€150m in the summer and then another €10m on Samatta in January. Change it to £ and whatever the exchange rate is and then give or take a few million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 I am sure Purslow said it wasn't 140 million and also that a lot of the fees were bonus related. I think Mings winning an England cap was one on his fee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Zatman said: I am sure Purslow said it wasn't 140 million and also that a lot of the fees were bonus related. I think Mings winning an England cap was one on his fee Sure they were, goes for all transfers at all clubs. For all we know that 4 min cameo that Wesley did for Brazil might have cost us a couple millions The fees reported at any given site is likely to be the fee that it could be if certain clauses are triggered. No site is going to bother to find out and post every single condition for the fee. Sure Newcastle didn't pay a flat £40m fee in cash for Joelinton. Edited June 6, 2020 by sne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 11 minutes ago, sne said: Sure Newcastle didn't pay a flat £40m fee in cash for Joelinton. I hope for Hoffenheim sake its not a goal bonus 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 My concern with our academy is, all the bright prospects, seem all the same type of players.....wingers or inside forwards, in the main. My question is this?.........Would a young budding Bryan Robson, Duncan Edwards, Gareth Barry or Patrick Viera or Yaya Toure be spotted. Would they be overlooked? When was the last time we produced a complete player like sid cowans When have we produced a commanding centre back, since Cahill, Clark and Baker. could we not find an Andy Townsend or Kevin Richardson or our own. It just seems to me we are a bit narrow visioned, or have been in the past.....it would be nice to see kids come through to fill all area's of the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 Two of our most highly rated youngsters and probably two of the best players in their age group in the country Carney Chukwuemeka and Aaron Ramsey are central midfielders. The academy setup is being revamped now anyway with Mark Harrison being brought in and the changes he's making, so will have to see how that improves things. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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