JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 18 minutes ago, Villan4Life said: KiwiVillian's a troll Paul... Like Villalad21 and other idiots on here. Don't waste your time pal. @KiwiVillain might be a joker and a bit too obsessed with stats, but he definitely ain't a troll mate. Lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan4Life Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: @KiwiVillain might be a joker and a bit too obsessed with stats, but he definitely ain't a troll mate. Lol i don't come on here enough to know mate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: Let me address it this way. I would like front 3 of AML and AMR either side of Watkins. Ideally these fancy new signings nearly done or rumoured. We have AEG and Trez in mix as competition for those spots. Jack wants to play central and I want him there too. That's 3 spots in mid left for Grealish Luiz McGinn. I wouldn't drop any of them for a new DM well.....Grealish is attacking and McGinn is essentially attacking. are you going to leave it all up to Luiz to stop the opposition pouring forward? If John is firing on all cylinders, he could wade in, Jack as much as I love him, doesn't stop Marauding raiders....but for me there is more questions than answers......not sufficient dedicated steel in midfield for me, sorry. Edited September 15, 2020 by TRO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: If you don't think Luiz and McGinn are good enough defensively in the middle we'll have to agree to disagree. I think Nakamba is a decent DM cover player also cover ,maybe.....I'm looking at the first eleven. Edited September 14, 2020 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 26 minutes ago, Villan4Life said: KiwiVillian's a troll Paul... Like Villalad21 and other idiots on here. Don't waste your time pal. Don't worry Chris, I have made my point.....if folk disagree, fine. some are misinterpreting what I am saying, but it doesn't surprise me, but hey ho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Just now, TRO said: cover ,maybe.....I'm looking at the first eleven. Yes definitely but let's say the forward 4 is and I'll use rumoured signings as placeholders, Rashica Watkins Traore with Grealish behind that's 2 mid spots and I want Luiz and McGinn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Kiwivillan said: Yes definitely but let's say the forward 4 is and I'll use rumoured signings as placeholders, Rashica Watkins Traore with Grealish behind that's 2 mid spots and I want Luiz and McGinn yeah I get that. but I don't see Luiz and McGinn as the 2 holding players, sorry.....I could be wrong.....but I see John McGinn as more attacking, sure when he is at his best he can turn the ball over, but I don't see that duo stopping good opposition, from raiding us and putting pressure of the 2 CB's maybe its just me. I like both players, but don't see them in the same light as you do.....I am looking for more defensive capability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 36 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: 4231 is basically 433 it changes during a game anyway, Frank Lampard said as much tonight, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 45 minutes ago, Okonokos said: Not sure that was necessary. I agreed with Kiwi's point. I think he was just pulling his leg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Kiwivillan said: What relevance is height to CDM? The greatest ever IMO was 5'9" Makélélé So many great ones have been over 6 foot....you have just chosen an exception. I just happen to think the taller ones give you some aerial power to protect the Cb's I don't like small Goal Keepers either and small centre backs give me the Heebie-Jebbies......but no doubt, there are some exceptions of those too. when they ban heading the ball, I will change my opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponky Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 2 hours ago, TheStagMan said: Or it's made up bolleauex. Oh wait, Twitter. Yep it's the Bolleaux one. Only if it's from the Bolleaux region of France Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_eristic Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 25 minutes ago, TRO said: maybe its just me. Nah, we were dire at winning balls in midfield, especially in the air. With a couple exceptions, the teams contesting fewer aerial challenges than us were the top sides stocked with higher quality all around and better able to press and/or keep the ball (and the two other poor teams tried the same approach, just sans the quality to do so). We also ranked poorly for tackles (oddly enough while having statistically one of the best tacklers in the league in Freddie) and had the most blocked shots, meaning, as we all knew, it was too easy to get through to our defensive line and force them into action for most of the season. Sure, Doug elevated his game towards the end, but he, SJM and Jack all ranked among the poorest headers in the league, while most of our blocks and interceptions came from defenders, meaning if we can't outplay every team we come against on the deck for whatever reason (either due to superior quality or long ball tactics) or, assuming we do have sufficient quality now, one of those three lose form/get injured, we're likely to have issues. Someone who can come in particularly against many of the sides we need to overtake and take a few balls out of the air or win some physical battles before it gets to our backline would relieve a lot of pressure, not to mention offering more attacking threat on corners and set pieces. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Tomaszk said: Nah. It is the same with the 8 used slightly differently. john becomes a bit of an odd one out but I don’t see why he can’t play as a defensive midfielder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thug Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 3 hours ago, rubberman said: Edouard please. 3 hours ago, paul514 said: Eduoard for sure but now Watkins is here I’d spend the 40m elsewhere anyway. No point having great strikers up front if you let too many in the other end 3 hours ago, PieFacE said: That's a tough one, had we not signed Watkins i'd 100% be Tammy. But Edouard feels like a bit of a wildcard and could offer something a bit different to Watkins. I’m gonna show these to my mum and ask her if she still thinks I ought to always respect other people’s opinions? This whole Edouard love in reminds me of the time every man and his dog on this forum were begging for us to sign Alfonso Alves because he was smashing goals in at a rate of 1 per game in some Mickey Mouse league. Boro bought him for a club record £13 odd million and he was utter garbage. Anyone willing to splash £40m on a player from the SPL over a player that scores 15 in 34 in the premier league, and 3 in 8 in the champions league (in my humble opinion) needs their head examined. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayk Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 (edited) Anyone else curious why Lange is at home in Denmark atm at probably the busiest time of the year for him? It could be for family reasons I’m sure but it could also be he’s working on a deal for a Danish based player right now? Hopefully it’s Mohammed Daramy, only 18 years old so maybe we loan him back to FC Copenhagen for this coming season. Edited September 15, 2020 by rayk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7392craig Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Once upon a time when 4-4-2 was the standard, you had 2 CM who went forward and back. They had to be good at both and work well together. Could it be possible to think of Douglas and John as playing a role more similar to that? Rather than thinking of them as specialist DM’s. Or does the forward 4 require them to be heavier on the defensive side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayk Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, 7392craig said: Once upon a time when 4-4-2 was the standard, you had 2 CM who went forward and back. They had to be good at both and work well together. Could it be possible to think of Douglas and John as playing a role more similar to that? Rather than thinking of them as specialist DM’s. Or does the forward 4 require them to be heavier on the defensive side? I think it does, especially as full backs are more like wing backs these days than they were in the 4-4-2 era. I want to see Jack play AM but I also think we need more steel in CM unless SJM can become more like Petrov in his latter playing years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayk Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 25 minutes ago, Thug said: I’m gonna show these to my mum and ask her if she still thinks I ought to always respect other people’s opinions? This whole Edouard love in reminds me of the time every man and his dog on this forum were begging for us to sign Alfonso Alves because he was smashing goals in at a rate of 1 per game in some Mickey Mouse league. Boro bought him for a club record £13 odd million and he was utter garbage. Anyone willing to splash £40m on a player from the SPL over a player that scores 15 in 34 in the premier league, and 3 in 8 in the champions league (in my humble opinion) needs their head examined. Alves was undoubtedly crap at Boro but calling the Eredivisie a Mickey Mouse League is a bit silly when you consider all the great players that have started their career there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Thug said: I’m gonna show these to my mum and ask her if she still thinks I ought to always respect other people’s opinions? This whole Edouard love in reminds me of the time every man and his dog on this forum were begging for us to sign Alfonso Alves because he was smashing goals in at a rate of 1 per game in some Mickey Mouse league. Boro bought him for a club record £13 odd million and he was utter garbage. Anyone willing to splash £40m on a player from the SPL over a player that scores 15 in 34 in the premier league, and 3 in 8 in the champions league (in my humble opinion) needs their head examined. There have been plenty of players to come out of Scotland recently who have been of a very high standard, Eduoard is the best forward to have played in the SPL for about 20 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 22 minutes ago, paul514 said: Eduoard is the best forward to have played in the SPL for about 20 years So the best since Larsson? That may or may not be true (and if he ends up coming here I will certainly hope so) but the list of SPL top scorers in the 7 or 8 years before Edouard doesn’t indicate there is much competition for that title: Kenny Miller, Gary Hooper, Michael Higdon, Kris Commons, Adam Rooney, Liam Boyce, Leigh Griffiths, Alfredo Morales Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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