Popular Post Paddywhack Posted January 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 21, 2021 8 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Great viewing. This word removed should have resigned long ago. I really hate it when I start rooting for Piers Morgan, I feel dirty. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 8 minutes ago, Paddywhack said: I really hate it when I start rooting for Piers Morgan, I feel dirty. I know. We have people in charge that make decisions AGAINST expert advice that cost many lives. And the can keep doing it over and over. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted January 21, 2021 Moderator Share Posted January 21, 2021 23 hours ago, darrenm said: The gov should definitely take this seriously and get the data so they can change the calculations to see if it's still worth vaccinating twice as many people but at lower efficacy. They should have done that BEFORE changing the 3 weeks to 12. OK, they've got real world data from Israel, but a clinical trial could/should have been done prior to deciding, rather than use (conflicting) medical opinion as a basis for taking the decision. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straggler Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 He's going to open the schools too early isn't he? Not that they are really closed anyway. He really needs to resign as should the pratt who hired him. What does Williamson even do all day? To hit his level of incompetence you have to actively avoid getting new information. Is he a big MMO player or something, cos he's clearly not spending much time in this reality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 I expect them to open schools after Feb half term as long as the numbers are on a downward trend. Top 2 groups will be vaccinated by then (which accounts for around 88% of deaths). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Quite right too. Frankly I think some of the posters on this forum may have themselves given in to 'the poison of anti-Boris sentiment'!! Show some respect FFS. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted January 21, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted January 21, 2021 5 hours ago, DCJonah said: Great viewing. This word removed should have resigned long ago. Can only argue on his last point because I saw a more incompetent decision making process just last night! In other news, this is me played by Ralph Wiggum upon hearing that Glastonbury is cancelled again (okay, it was pretty inevitable and there are more important things...): 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted January 21, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted January 21, 2021 Deaths the lowest all week at 1,290. New cases down to 37,892, a reduction from yesterday and way down on where we were a couple of weeks ago. 363,508 vaccinated, more than 20,000 up on yesterday. Be interested to see just how much more they can increase that. Also how many they can get done at the weekends which were a much smaller figure. I mean if they did 370,000 a day 7 days a week, that's just shy of 2.6m! Funny thing, a Government minster was on the news boasting we were doing 200 vaccines a minute, but we must be doing significantly more than that. By my maths 363,000 / 8 hours opening = 43,375 an hour / 60 minutes = 723 a minute. Even working it out on 24 hr a day working (which they are not doing yet) it's 252 an hour. How odd to pick a boastful figure which is actually quite a lot less than you are doing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted January 21, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted January 21, 2021 7 hours ago, DCJonah said: Great viewing. This word removed should have resigned long ago. "Why don't you resign, and let somebody more competent take over?" Erm, I think I can see the flaw in this... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 43 minutes ago, mjmooney said: "Why don't you resign, and let somebody more competent take over?" Erm, I think I can see the flaw in this... I liked it cos it’s funny.......but in reality, I’m fairly sure a tub of lard could do better than what we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 53 minutes ago, sidcow said: Deaths the lowest all week at 1,290. New cases down to 37,892, a reduction from yesterday and way down on where we were a couple of weeks ago. 363,508 vaccinated, more than 20,000 up on yesterday. Be interested to see just how much more they can increase that. Also how many they can get done at the weekends which were a much smaller figure. I mean if they did 370,000 a day 7 days a week, that's just shy of 2.6m! Funny thing, a Government minster was on the news boasting we were doing 200 vaccines a minute, but we must be doing significantly more than that. By my maths 363,000 / 8 hours opening = 43,375 an hour / 60 minutes = 723 a minute. Even working it out on 24 hr a day working (which they are not doing yet) it's 252 an hour. How odd to pick a boastful figure which is actually quite a lot less than you are doing. I think if there’s one thing we can say with absolute certainty after this past year it’s that any numbers offered by any government minister at any point and on any subject are more than likely to be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 TBH this is me unironically whenever an epidemiologist is interviewed on Radio 4 these days: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 2 hours ago, sidcow said: Deaths the lowest all week at 1,290. New cases down to 37,892, a reduction from yesterday and way down on where we were a couple of weeks ago. Just imagine anyone saying the above in the positive(ish)* context that you are, three, six or nine months ago and just think what a catastrophic failure must have happened to get to that point. *I appreciate you're not saying these number are good, just that they are comparatively not as bad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 6 hours ago, Genie said: I expect them to open schools after Feb half term as long as the numbers are on a downward trend. Top 2 groups will be vaccinated by then (which accounts for around 88% of deaths). Fingers crossed. The average age of a coivd victim, was, at least a couple of months back, 84 i think. Which is higher than the average life expectancy in the UK. If we can get those people vaccinated and sorted, the numbers of deaths should hopefully plummet massively. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 I'm still staggered by the lack of (reported) deaths in China. Less than 5k and less than 1k outside the Wuhan region. Hmmmmm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Just now, Xela said: Fingers crossed. The average age of a coivd victim, was, at least a couple of months back, 84 i think. Which is higher than the average life expectancy in the UK. If we can get those people vaccinated and sorted, the numbers of deaths should hopefully plummet massively. I agree, but also think there must be a way for the Government **** it up. Give it a month and we’ll be scratching our heads why there’s still a thousand deaths per day when all the 70+ are vaccinated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Xela said: I'm still staggered by the lack of (reported) deaths in China. Less than 5k and less than 1k outside the Wuhan region. Hmmmmm. Yep, absolute bollox. Given how cramped the living conditions are for many it must’ve absolutely ripped through in the early weeks and months. I expect now if you have it they take you out the back and put a bullet in you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted January 21, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted January 21, 2021 31 minutes ago, Xela said: I'm still staggered by the lack of (reported) deaths in China. Less than 5k and less than 1k outside the Wuhan region. Hmmmmm. 28 minutes ago, Genie said: Yep, absolute bollox. Given how cramped the living conditions are for many it must’ve absolutely ripped through in the early weeks and months. I expect now if you have it they take you out the back and put a bullet in you. I don't believe anything about the numbers coming out of China. We've seen how it rips through communities unless there is a total lockdown. They are still fairly open for the most part with loads of crowded cities. No way are they declaring what's going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, sidcow said: I don't believe anything about the numbers coming out of China. We've seen how it rips through communities unless there is a total lockdown. They are still fairly open for the most part with loads of crowded cities. No way are they declaring what's going on. Are they allowing fights in and out of the country? If so then no matter how good their lockdowns are they’ll have it, and it’ll be spreading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted January 21, 2021 Moderator Share Posted January 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Genie said: Are they allowing fights in and out of the country? If so then no matter how good their lockdowns are they’ll have it, and it’ll be spreading. Unless of course they'd vaccinated the vast majority of the public before they released it into the wild..... /s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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