Dante_Lockhart Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 1 minute ago, sidcow said: First death in the UK of this completely harmless Omicron variant today. WITH the variant, not OF. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Steero113 Posted December 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2021 18 minutes ago, Wezbid said: In regards to people worried about fertility, my fiancée is 31, I'm 36 (approaching 37), she's had her 2 jabs and a booster, I've had 2 jabs. We're approaching 10 weeks of her being pregnant. It will be the first child for the both of us. She was a bit worried that she wouldn't be able to get pregnant combining her age and the rumours about the jab but I will say that it didn't take long at all for her to fall pregnant once we actively started trying for a baby. This is after she's had 3 jabs. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: That’s what I have done. And I’ll get the booster, but it’s sometimes hard not to listen to the noise surrounding the vaccine and the risk/reward for my age group in getting it (30-40). Either way, I hope football isn’t cancelled again! I understand. You're doing the safer thing by getting a booster. You can't eliminate the miniscule risk of taking the vaccine or the risk of being vaccinated but still getting infected, but even given your age profile, the data shows you are reducing the risk of harm to your own health by getting vaccinated. You'll also have the added benefit of reducing the risk to others, even beyond your immediate friends, family and colleagues. Life is full of probabilities of risk and decisions made (typically subconsciously) on how those risks can be reduced. Tragically, people are killed using pedestrian crossings but that shouldn't equate to people being nervous to cross the street, banning motor vehicles or conversely, thinking it's safer to cross away from pedestrian crossings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wezbid Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Steero113 said: 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 11 minutes ago, sidcow said: First death in the UK of this completely harmless Omicron variant today. The usual question - would this person have died anyway even if they didn’t have Omicron? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 16 minutes ago, sidcow said: First death in the UK of this completely harmless Omicron variant today. Not reported ofcourse if they had underlying health conditions. I'm getting a little sceptical, bit of a fear factor going out from our government now. Funny we don't believe anything Boris and his crew say, apart when it comes to Covid?? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted December 13, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted December 13, 2021 Where is it being said that the death is purely coincidental to having the Virus? I've not seen that reported anywhere. A assume all of the other people in hospital with Omicron are also purely coincidental too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 1 minute ago, sidcow said: Where is it being said that the death is purely coincidental to having the Virus? I've not seen that reported anywhere. A assume all of the other people in hospital with Omicron are also purely coincidental too. Who knows? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ml1dch Posted December 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2021 Very excited to have the "with not of" fisticuffs back again. Nostalgia for a more innocent time. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 1 hour ago, trekka said: Ah, no worries. You are right actually going by the upper bound in the graph (if Pfizer) but it is very much an upper bound. I've been going by the data table and I guess we still don't know enough. The thing I worry about is that most people I know only had the AZ vaccine. Sorry if I'm being a bit dramatic about it. No it's fine. Somehow VillaTalk seems to be the best place to discuss this stuff, anywhere else on the web seems to be an absolute shitshow of arguments and misinformation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperTed Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Anyone else get the feeling another lockdown is very much on the horizon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 40 minutes ago, Wezbid said: In regards to people worried about fertility, my fiancée is 31, I'm 36 (approaching 37), she's had her 2 jabs and a booster, I've had 2 jabs. We're approaching 10 weeks of her being pregnant. It will be the first child for the both of us. She was a bit worried that she wouldn't be able to get pregnant combining her age and the rumours about the jab but I will say that it didn't take long at all for her to fall pregnant once we actively started trying for a baby. This is after she's had 3 jabs. Congratulations! I suspect 99% of the concern and misinformation spread regarding vaccination affecting fertility is down to the historic thalidomide tragedy. I suspect most of those concerned or perpetuating the fertility lies don't realise that the Thalidomide scandal has actually helped make the current COVID vaccines and many other vaccines safer through much increased emphasis on independent exhaustive testing and data analysis. I did see a news report from months back saying many of the Thalidomide campaigners were disgusted the fertility rumours would reduce vaccination take-up, increasing deaths from COVID and thus tarnishing their hard earned gains of much increased testing and analysis of new medication. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, SuperTed said: Anyone else get the feeling another lockdown is very much on the horizon? I think it's completely inevitable. Can see schools staying shut after Xmas hols and Jan being completely shut down. Won't be a long one though IMHO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted December 13, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted December 13, 2021 19 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: I'm getting a little sceptical, bit of a fear factor going out from our government now. Can you just explain to me, in simple terms because I'm a simple man, why the **** our Government would want to do that for no reason? Is it endearing them to the voters? And not just our Government but every other Government of all political persuasions too? And not just the Governments, but all the scientists too? it strikes me very strongly that of all these disparate sources are trying to put the fear of god into you, it's probably because you should be fearful. Please give me a rational explanation about why they would do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante_Lockhart Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, sidcow said: Can you just explain to me, in simple terms because I'm a simple man, why the **** our Government would want to do that for no reason? Is it endearing them to the voters? And not just our Government but every other Government of all political persuasions too? And not just the Governments, but all the scientists too? it strikes me very strongly that of all these disparate sources are trying to put the fear of god into you, it's probably because you should be fearful. Please give me a rational explanation about why they would do that? Because they're all words removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolta Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, sidcow said: Can you just explain to me, in simple terms because I'm a simple man, why the **** our Government would want to do that for no reason? Is it endearing them to the voters? And not just our Government but every other Government of all political persuasions too? And not just the Governments, but all the scientists too? it strikes me very strongly that of all these disparate sources are trying to put the fear of god into you, it's probably because you should be fearful. Please give me a rational explanation about why they would do that? If only peeps hadn't pretended the pandemic was over in June. This is a rod made by the Tories for the country's own back I feel. Where I am right now, there's no panic, no rush for boosters. Anyway, I think I repeat myself too much on here. Edited December 13, 2021 by Rolta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Called our Dr's at 12.00 to see they are doing booster jabs and can they fit my lad in, 12.45 available,, in and out no queues, result. If due, give it a try, you never know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 13, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted December 13, 2021 44 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: Funny we don't believe anything Boris and his crew say, apart when it comes to Covid?? Nobody believes Boris about Covid. They believe the science. If what Boris says and what the science says lines up then we believe it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Wezbid said: In regards to people worried about fertility, my fiancée is 31, I'm 36 (approaching 37), she's had her 2 jabs and a booster, I've had 2 jabs. We're approaching 10 weeks of her being pregnant. It will be the first child for the both of us. She was a bit worried that she wouldn't be able to get pregnant combining her age and the rumours about the jab but I will say that it didn't take long at all for her to fall pregnant once we actively started trying for a baby. This is after she's had 3 jabs. Congratulations mate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 33 minutes ago, SuperTed said: Anyone else get the feeling another lockdown is very much on the horizon? It’ll be a bit of a half hearted lockdown I reckon. Schools closed, apart from key worker children (which we realised last time was 90% of the children). Restaurants open, but max table of 6 people Pubs open, but closing at 9 Nightclubs closed, unless it’s for a business meeting. Fox hunting will continue without any restrictions, as will their club houses. Football matches restricted capacity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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