Davkaus Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 As a side note, don't look at that suppliers website unless you want to feel incredibly uncomfortable. I admit I thought it was just going to be sexy nurse outfits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post markavfc40 Posted March 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 28, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Davkaus said: Mate, the COBRA meetings have heavily referenced VT posts. Get your shit together. I am a bit pissed off with myself in fairness and have removed that post. It is what I interpreted them as saying on sky news though. I am certainly not trying to scaremonger. My wife and eldest daughter are both nurses within the NHS so I am not trying to make an already dire situation seem even worse for those trying to care for us now. My bigger point from my post was really about the lack of PPE which regardless of if it is 15% of health care workers getting infected or 15% of the deaths, or 1% of the deaths being health care workers it is still disgusting that we have asked those who care for us to in many cases do so without basic PPE to protect themselves. Edited March 28, 2020 by markavfc40 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Just now, markavfc40 said: I am a bit pissed off with myself in fairness and have removed that post. It is what I interpreted them as saying on sky news though. I am certainly not trying to scaremonger. My wife and eldest daughter are both nurses within the NHS so I am not trying to make an already dire situation seem even worse for those trying to care for us now. My bigger point form my post was really about the lack of PPE which regardless of if it is 15% of health care workers getting infected or 15% of the deaths, or 1% of the deaths being health care workers it is still disgusting that we have asked those who care for us to in many cases do so without basic PPE to protect themselves. It was a misunderstanding posted in good faith. The conversation since then has been ridiculously OTT. Don't take it too seriously. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RimmyJimmer Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 40 minutes ago, sne said: I linked to a article that stated the facts to someone who was asking for information. Hope that helped. And you agree the facts were misinterpreted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Just now, RimmyJimmer said: And you agree the facts were misinterpreted? Oh absolutely. But I think it was an honest mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 (edited) Can you catch the coronavirus twice? We don’t know yet Quote Can you catch the coronavirus twice? We don’t know yet We don’t have enough evidence yet to know if recovering from covid-19 induces immunity, or whether any immunity would give long-lasting protection against the coronavirus SAY you have caught covid-19 and recovered – are you now immune for life, or could you catch it again? We just don’t know yet. In February, reports emerged of a woman in Japan who had been given the all-clear after having covid-19 but then tested positive for the SARS-CoV-2 virus a second time. There have also been reports of a man in Japan testing positive after being given the all-clear, and anecdotal cases of second positives have emerged from China, too. This has raised fears that people may not develop immunity to the virus. This would mean that, until we have an effective vaccine, we could all experience repeated rounds of infection. But the science is still uncertain. ... “Immunity to SARS-CoV-2 is not yet well understood and we do not know how protective the antibody response will be in the long-term,” says Erica Bickerton at the Pirbright Institute in the UK. ... Other infectious disease specialists are more optimistic. “The evidence is increasingly convincing that infection with SARS-CoV-2 leads to an antibody response that is protective. Most likely this protection is for life,” says Martin Hibberd at the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine. “Although we need more evidence to be sure of this, people who have recovered are unlikely to be infected with SARS-CoV-2 again.” As always the skeptic and pessimist, I do wonder how much work 'most likely' is doing in the last quote (I obviously hope he's right). Edited March 28, 2020 by snowychap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 15 minutes ago, markavfc40 said: I am a bit pissed off with myself in fairness and have removed that post. It is what I interpreted them as saying on sky news though. I am certainly not trying to scaremonger. My wife and eldest daughter are both nurses within the NHS so I am not trying to make an already dire situation seem even worse for those trying to care for us now. My bigger point from my post was really about the lack of PPE which regardless of if it is 15% of health care workers getting infected or 15% of the deaths, or 1% of the deaths being health care workers it is still disgusting that we have asked those who care for us to in many cases do so without basic PPE to protect themselves. I think over the years on here you get to filter out the nutters, the preppers, the drama queens and the people that believe ‘pass it on’ posts on facebook. I’ve got you in the ‘generally untrustworthy tory dickwad’ category. (obvs not really) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzap24 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: I think over the years on here you get to filter out the nutters, the preppers, the drama queens and the people that believe ‘pass it on’ posts on facebook. I’ve got you in the ‘generally untrustworthy tory dickwad’ category. (obvs not really) I’ve not paid much attention to @markavfc40 posts since he started banging on about the chemicals in the water making the frigging frogs gay. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Whilst I'm sure we may have all seen/experienced people being idiots over the last few weeks, has anyone else felt that generally people seem to be being nicer to each other in the last week or so? I've just got back from Tesco in Dudley and whilst the queue to get in was bloody huge, social distancing was being respected and everyone seemed pretty good natured. It was the same when I finally got in, everyone just seemed polite and friendly. It just seems like most people are really starting to understand the severity of what's happening and are pulling together. It's nice to see.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 1 minute ago, av1 said: Whilst I'm sure we may have all seen/experienced people being idiots over the last few weeks, has anyone else felt that generally people seem to be being nicer to each other in the last week or so? I've just got back from Tesco in Dudley and whilst the queue to get in was bloody huge, social distancing was being respected and everyone seemed pretty good natured. It was the same when I finally got in, everyone just seemed polite and friendly. It just seems like most people are really starting to understand the severity of what's happening and are pulling together. It's nice to see.. Give it a week or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddywhack Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Just now, av1 said: Whilst I'm sure we may have all seen/experienced people being idiots over the last few weeks, has anyone else felt that generally people seem to be being nicer to each other in the last week or so? I've just got back from Tesco in Dudley and whilst the queue to get in was bloody huge, social distancing was being respected and everyone seemed pretty good natured. It was the same when I finally got in, everyone just seemed polite and friendly. It just seems like most people are really starting to understand the severity of what's happening and are pulling together. It's nice to see.. I’ve thought the same thing. Then I read the previous page on this thread. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RimmyJimmer Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, sne said: Oh absolutely. But I think it was an honest mistake. Yes I don't doubt that at all. I think the problem is the misleading nature of modern journalism at a time when sensitivity and accuracy should be paramount. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, av1 said: Whilst I'm sure we may have all seen/experienced people being idiots over the last few weeks, has anyone else felt that generally people seem to be being nicer to each other in the last week or so? I've just got back from Tesco in Dudley and whilst the queue to get in was bloody huge, social distancing was being respected and everyone seemed pretty good natured. It was the same when I finally got in, everyone just seemed polite and friendly. It just seems like most people are really starting to understand the severity of what's happening and are pulling together. It's nice to see.. I was talking to an old friend earlier today, she works on the counter at Morrisons. She said that those new perspex screens have gone up because 99% of people are much nicer and more polite and more appreciative than they’ve ever seen before. But unfortunately 1% are really struggling, and taking it out on them. I guess maybe with some there could be underlying violence and mental health issues and the current regime is turning the screw on people that were already struggling to hold it together in the outside world. In similar vein, burglary down, car theft down, shoplifting down. Domestic violence up. Edited March 28, 2020 by chrisp65 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post It's Your Round Posted March 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 28, 2020 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Davkaus said: As a side note, don't look at that suppliers website unless you want to feel incredibly uncomfortable. I admit I thought it was just going to be sexy nurse outfits. Back on topic, what the hell is going on with that website?! Needle play, surgical instrument sex games, catheterisation and skin stapling.... whatever floats your boat but some of that just looks downright dangerous. And painful. To make things worse, they can’t even deliver my order for three weeks!! Edited March 28, 2020 by It's Your Round 1 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted March 28, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted March 28, 2020 Why are CNN’s graphics always so bad (misleading)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: I was talking to an old friend earlier today, she works on the counter at Morrisons. She said that those new perplex screens have gone up because 99% of people are much nicer and more polite and more appreciative than they’ve ever seen before. But unfortunately 1% are really struggling, and taking it out on them. I guess maybe with some there could be underlying violence and mental health issues and the current regime is turning the screw on people that were already struggling to hold it together in the outside world. In similar vein, burglary down, car theft down, shoplifting down. Domestic violence up. I guess it's far to say then that situations like these being out the best and (sadly) the worst in people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 40 minutes ago, YLN said: 100% of health workers that have died are dead. Anything else is an extrapolation. There is nothing valid from extrapolating that because healthcare workers make up 15% of the overall covid infected, that they also make up 15% of the dead because the demographics of healthcare workers and those that have died from covid are totally different. While it's true that healthcare workers will be younger than the overall population as a whole, they are also obviously exposed to a much greater 'viral load' than the average member of the public, particularly if they are working in ICUs and/or without proper PPE, so demographics is not the only consideration that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, It's Your Round said: Back on topic, what the hell is going on with that website?! Needle play, surgical instrument sex games, catheterisation and skin stapling.... whatever floats your boat but some of that just looks downright dangerous. And painful. @rjw63 can you offer any advice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, choffer said: Why are CNN’s graphics always so bad (misleading)? Looks like the Lib Dem bar chart has finally made it across the Atlantic. ITALY CAN'T WIN HERE - IT'S A TWO-HORSE RACE! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 UK: 1019 deaths (up by 260). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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