HanoiVillan Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, leighavfc said: The only thing with all out testing is you could be tested today and pass, but tomorrow get the virus from somewhere. I think that's why it's not entirely logical to test everybody asap or when the tests are finally available etc and maybe wait until certain symptoms etc There's two different types of testing: the antigen test shows whether you have the virus *now*, and the antibody test shows whether you have had it previously. If you test negative for then former, but positive for the latter, in theory you are immune (although there have been reports of reinfections and I'm less than 100% confident on this point, but it may be the best we've got) and can work/care for others/do vital tasks in less fear of infection. Of course, a patient getting an antigen test result is also useful for doctors trying to ascertain if a patient is sick with this or something else. I think the conceptual leap that most people struggle with - me included - is remembering that tests are not primarily useful for the person being tested, for the reasons you suggest, but are useful for society in general. (Edited this post for clarity) Edited March 27, 2020 by HanoiVillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 14 minutes ago, leighavfc said: The only thing with all out testing is you could be tested today and pass, but tomorrow get the virus from somewhere. I think that's why it's not entirely logical to test everybody asap or when the tests are finally available etc and maybe wait until certain symptoms etc The antibody test is far more worthwhile. People that have had it know pretty much they are in the clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted March 27, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted March 27, 2020 8 minutes ago, Genie said: The antibody test is far more worthwhile. People that have had it know pretty much they are in the clear. This is kind of why I half want to get it. Assuming it doesn't kill me (big assumption), and that it does give future immunity (ditto), I'd very much like to get out and volunteer to help where it's needed. The snag is that I don't want to risk my immuno-compromised wife getting it, so we're both hunkering down as much as possible (apart from an occasional nervous shopping expedition by me). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted March 27, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted March 27, 2020 8 hours ago, tonyh29 said: At the time they said he saw her Via Skype , don’t think you can spread it that way Can I just check if that is true of STD's as well? A mate of mine was asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 366 in Brum, Highest on the list now! https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/f94c3c90da5b4e9f9a0b19484dd4bb14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 2 hours ago, chrisp65 said: Apparently Stoke have fined him for that. Sense of humour by pass there methinks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leighavfc Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 40 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: There's two different types of testing: the antigen test shows whether you have the virus *now*, and the antibody test shows whether you have had it previously. If you test negative for then former, but positive for the latter, in theory you are immune (although there have been reports of reinfections and I'm less than 100% confident on this point, but it may be the best we've got) and can work/care for others/do vital tasks in less fear of infection. Of course, a patient getting an antigen test result is also useful for doctors trying to ascertain if a patient is sick with this or something else. I think the conceptual leap that most people struggle with - me included - is remembering that tests are not primarily useful for the person being tested, for the reasons you suggest, but are useful for society in general. (Edited this post for clarity) Ahhh I see I didn't realise there were two tests, I just presumed there was a for all test so to speak. Makes a lot more sense though for the two tests, thank you for your explanation! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 (edited) USA just blow past 100,511 Total confirmed Cases. FFS They will be around half a million this time next week! worldometers Edited March 27, 2020 by Kingman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HanoiVillan Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 2 hours ago, Davkaus said: The police are **** loving it. Give the **** a sniff of power and they'll use and abuse it until it's seized back. Not to worry, at least they haven't started suggesting murdering people: Oh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted March 27, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted March 27, 2020 6 hours ago, Brumerican said: Yet Mrs Brown's Boys still can't even get a single chuckle out of me. Glad it's not just me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 This deserved a sequel. I'm not a big fan of being an extra in it mind you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 55 minutes ago, mjmooney said: This is kind of why I half want to get it. Assuming it doesn't kill me (big assumption), and that it does give future immunity (ditto), I'd very much like to get out and volunteer to help where it's needed. The snag is that I don't want to risk my immuno-compromised wife getting it, so we're both hunkering down as much as possible (apart from an occasional nervous shopping expedition by me). I said the same to my wife, if I knew I was immune and wouldn’t bring it home to the family I’d get out in the community getting shopping, running errands and such. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 31 minutes ago, bickster said: I was thinking about the graph earlier, where does it come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 14 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Not to worry, at least they haven't started suggesting murdering people: Oh. They're big on policing by consent aren't they What a very dangerous man, how horrifying to know he used to hold such a position. But not surprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 27, 2020 Moderator Share Posted March 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, Genie said: I was thinking about the graph earlier, where does it come from? I follow the r/dataisbeautiful sub-reddit, they often have stuff like this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted March 27, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted March 27, 2020 4 hours ago, tonyh29 said: Seems one of our neighbours was taken to hospital in the night with suspected coronavirus I hear he’s been put on one of the new Dyson ventilators and is now picking up nicely. That sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichfield Dean Posted March 27, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted March 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, sidcow said: That sucks. Yeah, but I hear there's a VAXine in the works 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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leighavfc Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Lichfield Dean said: Yeah, but I hear there's a VAXine in the works America look like they will need to Hoover all of them up if things continue the way they are... a bit Gtechnical for me to understand it all though.... Edited March 27, 2020 by leighavfc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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