sharkyvilla Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 8 hours ago, By the arse of McGinn said: Size means nothing unless you keep banging in high ball after high ball. Of course, it depends on the intelligence and composure of players around you to keep supplying you the correct way. Messi and Aguero are the first names that come to mind that weren’t affected by being vertically challenged! Even going back to what is now the commentating genius that is Michael Owen. Awareness, positional sense and just a general footballing intelligence on the pitch will have as much, if not more of an impact than size. Yeah short players with low centres of gravity can be deceptively hard to shrug off the ball if they put the work in in the gym. They just kind of bounce off defenders. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 He’s also a good foot or two further away from the camera… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post brommy Posted July 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2022 42 minutes ago, a m ole said: He’s also a good foot or two further away from the camera… These are small but the one's out there are far away... Small... far away... Ah forget it. 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 10 hours ago, By the arse of McGinn said: Size means nothing unless you keep banging in high ball after high ball. Of course, it depends on the intelligence and composure of players around you to keep supplying you the correct way. Messi and Aguero are the first names that come to mind that weren’t affected by being vertically challenged! Even going back to what is now the commentating genius that is Michael Owen. Awareness, positional sense and just a general footballing intelligence on the pitch will have as much, if not more of an impact than size. It's not really about height but more build. Aguero could hang with the best because he was stocky/low center of gravity meant he could hold off defenders and get his shots away. Cam didn't have trouble with this in the Championship, but the PL is a different beast. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By the arse of McGinn Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 4 hours ago, Keyblade said: It's not really about height but more build. Aguero could hang with the best because he was stocky/low center of gravity meant he could hold off defenders and get his shots away. Cam didn't have trouble with this in the Championship, but the PL is a different beast. Absolutely. He won’t get used to that if he doesn’t get a chance to play though. He didn’t look out of place when he played and scored against Chelsea, so I’m hoping the 5 subs rule works in his favour this season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stegzy Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 4 hours ago, Keyblade said: It's not really about height but more build. Aguero could hang with the best because he was stocky/low center of gravity meant he could hold off defenders and get his shots away. Cam didn't have trouble with this in the Championship, but the PL is a different beast. Archer is actually deceptively strong though and often used his strength and low centre of gravity to hold of the biggest brutes of the championship before turning them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, stegzy said: Archer is actually deceptively strong though and often used his strength and low centre of gravity to hold of the biggest brutes of the championship before turning them. Right but I think we overrate the Championship in that sense. Or maybe overrate is the wrong word, but as they might be more brutish down there, the PL defenders are just quicker and stronger as we found when we came up. It took McGinn for example a while to get his signature arse rolls in and even now he doesn't do it as regularly and effectively as he did in the Championship. Similarly Jack needed 8-10 games to build himself up to challenge these defenders again after simply toying with the Championship defenders for 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 7 hours ago, Keyblade said: Right but I think we overrate the Championship in that sense. Or maybe overrate is the wrong word, but as they might be more brutish down there, the PL defenders are just quicker and stronger as we found when we came up. It took McGinn for example a while to get his signature arse rolls in and even now he doesn't do it as regularly and effectively as he did in the Championship. Similarly Jack needed 8-10 games to build himself up to challenge these defenders again after simply toying with the Championship defenders for 2 years. yeah thats been talked about before and commented on by professional players, championship defenders are different from PL defenders but they arent stronger, brutish probably is the word, bit more clumsy and a bit more clogger about them but they arent as strong or have the ability to use their body as well as say VVD can watkins vs VVD in the home game made for interesting viewing, partially because VVD at times simply out muscled him to much criticism of ollie on here as if to suggest he shouldnt but also because ollie did work ways around him during that game to the extent where im sure it was klopp who said he gave them a tough time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 In terms of game intelligence most Prem defenders will br far superior to those in the Championship. They willl keep them on their weak foot, nudge them to get them off balance and then use their huge pace to cover any runs. The one good thing that we can say about Cam is that no defender will be able t0 keep him on his weak foot . Because he doesnt have one ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 He scores goals. Excellent finish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 He's such a natural finisher. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 Mate! This not really is an Archer! So effortless ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 Plays. Scores. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted July 9, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted July 9, 2022 (edited) When he went through, not for one second did I think there would be any other result than ball in net. For Ings and definitely for Watkins I would never have such confidence. Edited July 9, 2022 by sidcow 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 He is lethal. Just a Natural born Killer. No untidiness. His chance conversion percentage must be huge. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 On 05/07/2022 at 23:26, stegzy said: Archer is actually deceptively strong though and often used his strength and low centre of gravity to hold of the biggest brutes of the championship before turning them. He had the nickname Tevez in training before he went out on loan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 18 minutes ago, Tom13 said: He had the nickname Tevez in training before he went out on loan! Cos he's an ugly bastard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 Unless we bring in another forward I would keep him. Just being around the first team and getting cup games with maybe the odd sub appearance in the league could be great experience and development for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slovenian Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 (edited) beautiful, looking forward to those arrows Edited July 9, 2022 by slovenian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 If he aticks around then i think we will hear " Buendia Archer...Goal " an awful lot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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