a m ole Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 Step up to the premier league as a striker is really difficult, he’s certainly earning to chance to try though 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said: Personally think the 5 sub rule is being overplayed a lot by some people. I think most managers won’t use 5 subs, it will only be a rarity and then only for a couple of minutes. As for Archer, fair ply for keeping his form and confidence high with another goal. He’s obviously worked so hard to improve the last few years. The top 6 will. Man City with £300m worth of players on the bench can bring on 5 new outfield players if they find themselves drawing or a goal down. It will be useful to give minutes to young players and back ups like Sanson. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villaphan04 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 1 hour ago, CarryOnVilla said: If we sold one of Ings or Watkins and had Archer as understudy, I wouldn’t complain IMO that would be especially dumb. Why sell one of our first team players and not replace him? I think we should keep Archer around the squad, but I don't see any reason why we should sell one of Watkins or Ings (unless we're dropping 50m+ on another striker which is a different story). We played with 2 up top several times last season so only having 2 senior strikers, one of whom has 3 appearances / 24 total PL minutes would be incredibly naïve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 Just now, Villaphan04 said: IMO that would be especially dumb. Why sell one of our first team players and not replace him? I think we should keep Archer around the squad, but I don't see any reason why we should sell one of Watkins or Ings (unless we're dropping 50m+ on another striker which is a different story). We played with 2 up top several times last season so only having 2 senior strikers, one of whom has 3 appearances / 24 total PL minutes would be incredibly naïve Archer is perfect if we play with two up front, start with Watkins and Ings, if one isn't playing well bring Archer on. He'll be hungry to impress with 30 or 20 mins game time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 11 minutes ago, Villaphan04 said: IMO that would be especially dumb. Why sell one of our first team players and not replace him? I think we should keep Archer around the squad, but I don't see any reason why we should sell one of Watkins or Ings (unless we're dropping 50m+ on another striker which is a different story). We played with 2 up top several times last season so only having 2 senior strikers, one of whom has 3 appearances / 24 total PL minutes would be incredibly naïve Pffft, I’d rather have 1 up top and phill and emi behind him pulling the strings 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Villaphan04 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 43 minutes ago, CarryOnVilla said: Pffft, I’d rather have 1 up top and phill and emi behind him pulling the strings I agree with that as i think it will be our strongest formation but i just can't get on board to advocate weakening our squad especially at striker. Archer still hasn't proven anything at the PL level 54 minutes ago, duke313 said: Archer is perfect if we play with two up front, start with Watkins and Ings, if one isn't playing well bring Archer on. He'll be hungry to impress with 30 or 20 mins game time. Completely agree with this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted July 20, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted July 20, 2022 I'd love to see him given a chance starting up front with the full team on Saturday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 Like any striker, he'll miss chances, but you can see his finishing technique is brilliant. You just have a feeling that most times if he's in he'll bury it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 38 minutes ago, Villaphan04 said: I agree with that as i think it will be our strongest formation but i just can't get on board to advocate weakening our squad especially at striker. Archer still hasn't proven anything at the PL level Completely agree with this But like @JAMAICAN-VILLAN asked, would you sell Ings to help us get a better CM. The short answer yes, easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villaphan04 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, CarryOnVilla said: But like @JAMAICAN-VILLAN asked, would you sell Ings to help us get a better CM. The short answer yes, easy nah I still wouldn't. Weakening a part of the team which will be crucial for us is again dumb. We can't go into the season with only Watkins and Archer as our only striking options - that's insanity imo. In terms of midfield, when we already have 5 first team midfielders for 2 spots (or 6 for 3 if you want to include Kamara) and that's not including youth like O’Reilly, Iroegbunam, and A. Ramsey. Now, if we were planning on loaning out some of the youth and selling Sanson, not extending Luiz etc then that's a different conversation. But as it is, we have too many midfielders for another Kamara-esque signing atm imo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post troon_villan Posted July 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2022 I think he'll be our first player to reach 2000 Premier League goals. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted July 20, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted July 20, 2022 4 hours ago, HKP90 said: Taller than Tevez tho' (looks it anyway) 1.27 on the Elphick scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 He needs to keep showing off that all-round game. Very impressed today. Was in the thick of everything. You can't be a poacher in the PL anymore, those days are gone. Show the boss you've got the game to play from the off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 (edited) If we aren't signing another striker we should keep him in the first team picture, lad is a natural finisher Edited July 20, 2022 by VillanousOne 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chappy Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 4.5m in FPL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 1 minute ago, chappy said: 4.5m in FPL Very tempting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allani Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, VillanousOne said: If we aren't signing another striker we should keep him in the first team picture, lad is a natural finisher If we are signing another striker then even more reason to keep him in the first team picture. New striker (presumably signed as a starter), Ings and Ollie would be difficult to balance. I think Archer has shown that if we did sign a new striker then he's plenty good enough to be our second back-up option (behind a more experienced option) regardless of whether we play 1 or 2 up front. So it would allow the club to move on one of Ollie or Ings to cover part of any transfer fee paid for the new striker. Edited July 20, 2022 by allani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 8 hours ago, The Fun Factory said: Call me all old fashioned but I am quite a fan of strikers who are natural finishers. Other than Tammy who was on loan with us, I can't remember a Villa striker who has looked like this for years. Maybe Yorke in the 90s. Tammy wasn't even a natural finisher (IMO of course). I still don't understand how he scores so many. I've never known anyone score so many goals, yet so rarely strike the ball cleanly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 8 hours ago, WakefieldVillan said: Without starting a Tammy discussion (but I am, apologies) - Tammy wasn't (isn't) a natural finisher either IMO. He also misses lots of chances. Dwight Yorke was though for sure. Archer took his goal well and his overall game was decent enough. His pace caused their defence problems and on another day he may have had five goals - 1) Just failing to connect to Buendia's ball in. 2) One where he probably should have laid Watkins in but took the defender on and shot over the bar. 3) One he dragged wide (should have scored that). 4) One that deflected wide and the one he scored. I think he's a more natural finisher than Watkins, but he's still quite raw. I wouldn't mind having him on the bench should we be chasing a game, but I would love if we sign another top quality striker and loan out Archer to continue his development. Just seen this. Agreed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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