sir_gary_cahill Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 I think he’s an excellent player, he offers us an outlet when we’re attacking, when he links up with Grealish, it’s amazing to watch. The only time I’ve seen him be dominated defensively was by Adama Traore at Molineux against Wolves, all he had to do was stand off him a couple of yards but he just kept diving in. Apart from that match, he’s been defensively sound all season for me, well worth the reported £11m fee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 1 hour ago, VillaChris said: For the money we spent he's very average. This is it. He'll look good when we're good. When Grealish is flying and gifting him the ball on a plate. Does very little when our backs are to the wall. £11-14m is £6-9m too much. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 He is a good attacker but not a good defender. Full backs can get away with it sometimes but sadly not in our system. Needs a Snoddy or an Ashley Young type helping him out 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxfordVillan Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Interesting to note comments from interview yesterday, he says players will need good 5-6wks to get fitness back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, OxfordVillan said: Interesting to note comments from interview yesterday, he says players will need good 5-6wks to get fitness back. Easily, they have been off longer than in pre-season and will have no warmup games to build fitness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 32 minutes ago, Zatman said: Easily, they have been off longer than in pre-season and will have no warmup games to build fitness There will be an argument that they haven't been on holiday and should have kept some sort of fitness level rather than letting it all go and I actually agree with that I'd be disappointed if our players came back completely unfit That said several of them have posted their home gym set up on social media 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 8 hours ago, Tomaszk said: This is it. He'll look good when we're good. When Grealish is flying and gifting him the ball on a plate. Does very little when our backs are to the wall. £11-14m is £6-9m too much. That's the problem with judging players by their transfer fee when the transfer fees have been inflated beyond all sense 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 I like him. I really like him. He has his deficiencies but he is one of about 4 players in the team that can actually pass a ball with weight on it into feet and forwards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 1 hour ago, OxfordVillan said: Interesting to note comments from interview yesterday, he says players will need good 5-6wks to get fitness back. I think he might have been repeating what he's heard elsewhere. He's a young lad, who will soon be as fit as anyone else, but probably didn't want to come out with that sort of reply on camera. I like his attitude, he's still got things to improve on, but I'm confident he knows that and will be working on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 1 hour ago, OxfordVillan said: Interesting to note comments from interview yesterday, he says players will need good 5-6wks to get fitness back. Some will take longer than others. Survival of the fittest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 2 hours ago, villalad21 said: Some will take longer than others. Survival of the fittest Or survival of those who can be bothered to get fit.... We have to look at the likes of the Palace game and think we should be a level ahead of them, their done and being dragged back with nothing to play for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Or survival of those who can be bothered to get fit.... We have to look at the likes of the Palace game and think we should be a level ahead of them, their done and being dragged back with nothing to play for Wish we had more of those so called "winnable games" as we don't beat the bigger teams. Newcastle and Palace certainly must win games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 4 hours ago, villa4europe said: That's the problem with judging players by their transfer fee when the transfer fees have been inflated beyond all sense It's a problem IMO we were so willing to splash out on average players just because the market is crazy. You don't have to partake in silly prices on the average players. Pay silly prices for good players. Targett was the most obvious annoying one as we had evidence of him playing in PL and looking like he wasn't ready to be a certified 38 start a season man. Suso killed us before the season started. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Tomaszk said: It's a problem IMO we were so willing to splash out on average players just because the market is crazy. You don't have to partake in silly prices on the average players. Pay silly prices for good players. Targett was the most obvious annoying one as we had evidence of him playing in PL and looking like he wasn't ready to be a certified 38 start a season man. Suso killed us before the season started. Pretty sure Targett was a Smith signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Pretty sure Targett was a Smith signing. Was a Suso one according to all the reports which surprised me as you'd have thought he'd have been able to find a decent one in Spain or France. To me Amavi is better left back than Targett so you'd think we'd have managed to find decent one for under 10m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Just now, VillaChris said: Was a Suso one according to all the reports which surprised me as you'd have thought he'd have been able to find a decent one in Spain or France. To me Amavi is better left back than Targett so you'd think we'd have managed to find decent one for under 10m. That would surprise me as Targett fits the bills of a Smith type of fullback 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbit Feet Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, villalad21 said: That would surprise me as Targett fits the bills of a Smith type of fullback I’m pretty sure Jack wanted Targett at the club I think they played together at youth level and was probably asked who he was most comfortable with behind him, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 20 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: It's a problem IMO we were so willing to splash out on average players just because the market is crazy. You don't have to partake in silly prices on the average players. Pay silly prices for good players. Targett was the most obvious annoying one as we had evidence of him playing in PL and looking like he wasn't ready to be a certified 38 start a season man. Suso killed us before the season started. disagree on suso if we go down targett stays and looks great in the championship next season, if we stay up then targett looks adequate but ultimately can be improved upon which is what makes his price tag disappointing we buy some 21 year old star for less than £10m (who I genuinely don't know who that is, don't think there are many fullbacks left or right kicking about right now, don't think he's English that's for sure) who has a great season but we go down then all we've done is signed another amavi, he's gone next season, probably at a loss I think suso's potential future proofing of us is really underrated, targett ticks that box, he'll be a championship player with us should the worst happen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 We could always have paid a little more for a more experienced one. Lucas Digne cost Everton 18m. Only 26, played for many big clubs already and France and in Everton's difficult season one of their better players from what I've seen. I do think he'd be fine in the championship if it comes to that given you don't have to be great defensively in that league and his overlapping runs would cause plenty of problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 I'm a big fan of Targett, not fantastic defensively but his attacking side is excellent imo. He'd be great in the Championship if we go down as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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