Wes Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 59 minutes ago, TheMightyVillans said: Hickey in for 10-15mill and Targett out for 25-30mill would be some elite club level business Indeed! People should have a bit more trust in this recruitment team rather than the sheer panic that occured in here last night when the loan to Newcastle was mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 19 minutes ago, useless said: When people come up with reasons why we shouldn't let Targett go to Newcastle do they not think the club have thought of these reasons? They're not stupid if it happens there will be a plan, or a very good reason for it. Brining in Hickey would make sense to me because he can also cover for Cash, we've got Chambers, but think the plan is more to use him as central defender cover, and maybe to come on as DM to try and help us close out games, not sure he would be much use as a right-back in Gerrard's system, he's not bad on the ball at all, but I can't imagine him flying down the wing almost as a winger would. To be honest, no. I don't want us to deal with them primarily due to a hatred of the Newcastle regime, another particularly odious state-sponsored club. Who I'd rather we not deal with or assist in anyway unless they pay a huge premium, I can't imagine the board are acting on any kind of emotional thinking i.e. if Newcastle offer £2M more for Targett than Burnley, Targett will be going to Newcastle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cizzler Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 A loan would be really disappointing - helps them and doesn't help us at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Boooooo (if true) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante_Lockhart Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Just now, HalfTimePost said: Boooooo (if true) Minimum would be a monthly sum plus 100% of wages covered if true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Just now, HalfTimePost said: Boooooo (if true) weird one for me. If we are buying Hickey we really want to sell Targett (or a loan with obligation to buy - at the least). If we arent getting a backup LB, we shouldnt be selling or loaning Targett. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Just now, Dante_Lockhart said: Minimum would be a monthly sum plus 100% of wages covered if true. Richest team in the world and one we shouldn't be helping. A monthly fee and wages covered is a crap deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted January 31, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 31, 2022 Not sure why we would loan him out. Hopefully there is an obligation to buy in the loan deal. Would be kinda sad to see him go tbh. He hasn't looked the same since Jack left tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyVillans Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Very wierd deal if Hickey doesn't come in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa87 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 minute ago, TheMightyVillans said: Very wierd deal if Hickey doesn't come in. Maybe the loan / obligation to buy only happens if we get Hickey in first… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted January 31, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Loxstock92 said: Maybe this is why The key word here is 'rejected' . No team will want to lose a first team player without major compensation. I'm not sure i can see the angle on a straight loan fir Targett, may as well prep the physio room for digne's injury now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaFaninLondon Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) Again, I really don't see the point in this. We're better off keeping him here as cover unless we get something out of it (e.g. 20m up front payment to help fund a DM). A loan is pointless for three reasons: 1) As above, we get very little out of it except wages off the book (which won't have much effect as Targett won't be on a lot) and probably a loan fee of a couple of million 2) It's helping Newcastle out for very little in return, which makes no sense as they could potentially eclipse us at some point in the next three years 3) It's losing a player who can act as good cover at LB and can even play further forward if needs be so would be an important squad member If we were getting a sizeable transfer fee of around 20m which we could use to fund a top quality DM, then ok. We know Newcastle aren't broke, they've just spent 13m on a bang average Dan Burn for Christ sake, they could go to 20m for Targett if they wanted. So all in all I'm disappointed by this one and would be interested to hear the club's justification for it. Edited January 31, 2022 by VillaFaninLondon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 It is a strange one, but trusting Purslow + Lange and co. has to work both ways. Whenever we are looking to sign a player that divides opinion, there are countless posts telling those who are dissenting to trust the guys running the club. Fine, but this has to work with loaning and selling players too. Personally, I don't really want to be helping Newcastle but the guys running the club obviously have a plan here you would imagine. Newcastle have probably offered something daft like a £7m loan fee plus covering 100% of his wages. It might be too good to turn down and in turn, may allow us to sign Hickey. Or, we've got a load of clowns in charge and they haven't the foggiest... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Option to buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichW Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Unless something comes out later today this deal just doesn't make sense to me. A permanent deal yes, loan no. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 This would be slightly better. They have to be rinsed if we help them. I want £8m+ loan fee and a £25m purchase option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJay Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 There is just no way we are loaning Targett to Newcastle unless it's hugely beneficial to us, I trust the board on this. As mentioned, it's either a huge loan fee or mandatory purchase and we have someone else coming in to the team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa87 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 minute ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said: Option to buy. Obligation to buy would be better! I’m really not sure with helping out Newcastle, however they would likely stay up without Targett anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Wonder what the rules are regarding adjusting a loan agreement. I wonder if we can approve a straight loan, tell the PL, then continue to negotiate for a few days on what happens at the end of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turvontour Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 13 minutes ago, MaVilla said: weird one for me. If we are buying Hickey we really want to sell Targett (or a loan with obligation to buy - at the least). If we arent getting a backup LB, we shouldnt be selling or loaning Targett. It is annoying, particularly on loan. They go from having a bottom 3 left back to a mid table left back. And no permanent cost to them. It's like this window theyve built a mid table eleven, which will be enough to keep then up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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