Kiwivillan Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 16 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: I reckon Matty wanted to go. Also, as " prehistoric " as this might sound to some, I wonder if Heart/Balls/Desire/fight is big with SG, and Matty simply hasn't shown enough? Say what you want about Cash, but he's a warrior. Snake Gresford joked about him not being fond of gym work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turvontour Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 16 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: I reckon Matty wanted to go. Also, as " prehistoric " as this might sound to some, I wonder if Heart/Balls/Desire/fight is big with SG, and Matty simply hasn't shown enough? Say what you want about Cash, but he's a warrior. I mean this is the only angle I see why we would be loaning him out. He did a couple of interviews last season about wanting to be in the England reckoning, with his then form. Completely understandable if he wants to play in the premier league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Ash can cover both sides and we brought back Kesler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) Can you imagine going to your employer and saying as you no longer want me can I leave where I have a great opportunity to be used and it would be good for my future. They will pay my wages and give you a fee. No, they are competitors and we refuse to do business with them. So just shut up and warm that bench. Edited January 31, 2022 by Vive_La_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Can't believe the club are doing deals with people that think it's ok to chop people's heads off. I hope the nominal loan fee was worth it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I don’t see the big deal if the players wants the move. He puts in a transfer request and they have to pay the money for him, Villa arent a charity even though sometimes it feels like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cizzler Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 minute ago, villalad21 said: Ash can cover both sides and we brought back Kesler. KKH looks set to go to MK Dons (and is a right back anyway). Ashley Young has mostly played left back in a 3-5-2 - and is miles worse than Targett anyway. It's more frustrating that we are helping them stay up. We get nothing back from loaning a 26 year old out. It should be a sale or nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Just now, Zatman said: He puts in a transfer request and they have to pay the money for him, Villa arent a charity even though sometimes it feels like it Why should he have to put in a transfer request when we no longer want or need him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Unbelievable We building a decent squad yet we loaning him?? If they want him pay the 30m. What do we get out of a loan. A unbelievably stupid decision by the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, AshVilla said: Can't believe the club are doing deals with people that think it's ok to chop people's heads off. I hope the nominal loan fee was worth it. Your country is happy doing business with them. No idea why it should shock you so much that a football club will. But that’s going off topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Just now, Cizzler said: It's more frustrating that we are helping them stay up. Maybe the coaching staff don't look at it that way. Perhaps they don't rate this guy at all, and I wouldn't blame them after what they've seen from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam-AVFC Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Can you imagine going to your employer and saying as you no longer want me can I leave where I have a great opportunity to be used and it would be good for my future. They will pay my wages and give you a fee. No, they are competitors and we refuse to do business with them. So just shut up and warm that bench. There's a lot of unique employment situations in football that I can't imagine having with my employer. But if you seriously want an answer, I'd be delighted if my employer told me they'd hired someone else to do my job, but wanted to keep me on as first reserve in case of incapacitating RSI. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Why should he have to put in a transfer request when we no longer want or need him? Who says we dont want or need him? He was on the bench last week and is a squad member 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Just now, Sam-AVFC said: There's a lot of unique employment situations in football that I can't imagine having with my employer. But if you seriously want an answer, I'd be delighted if my employer told me they'd hired someone else to do my job, but wanted to keep me on as first reserve in case of incapacitating RSI. I just think it would be a harsh way to treat a player that has done good for us but is no longer required. Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdman Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 I'm surprised by this and bit uncomfortable with cover in this position. Thought is was all BS lol. Matty Targett is solid backup if uninspiring but perhaps he's keen on the move and doesn't want to warm the bench. I reckon he must have told SG he's not happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Zatman said: Who says we dont want or need him? He was on the bench last week and is a squad member Nobody has said it but the fact we are letting him go suggests that doesn’t it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 7 minutes ago, Pez1974 said: Understand that - but punishing Aston Villa in order annoy Newcastle is bonkers. Let's take advantage of them by giving them someone is is no longer good enough to play for us. For a lot of money (hopefully!) Of course, as I said that's just a personal feeling and not how anyone should actually run the club. I'd be with you unless as reported it is in fact just a straight 6 month loan in which case maybe the loan fee was too big to turn down but I can't see an enormous amount of sense in it otherwise, even just from a squad depth perspective. The folk running the club aren't mugs though, I trust they see what everyone is saying, in which case the reasons for going ahead with it evidently outweigh the reasons not to for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 If it’s a loan with an obligation to buy in the summer at an above market rate fee, it makes sense. They’ll stay up anyway, if we can make a profit on Targett then it’s very good business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Can you imagine going to your employer and saying as you no longer want me can I leave where I have a great opportunity to be used and it would be good for my future. They will pay my wages and give you a fee. No, they are competitors and we refuse to do business with them. So just shut up and warm that bench. This is incredibly simplistic. Clubs are allowed more than one player per position, in fact the best clubs have competition for every position. He was our player of the season last year and is an excellent defensive fullback, in my eyes he's a very important squad player not sure why you are so adamant we don't need or want him? We hold all the cards if Newcastle want him. They are desperate to stay up and it's the January window, allowing them to have their cake and eat by loaning him and then allowing them to decide whether to purchase or not seems insane to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Well this is a shiiiiter of a deal Ruined my coffee and mid morning snack, that has. I probably going to have to do my job, just to cheer me up. It doesn’t cheer me, ever… that’s how bad this deal is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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