KenjiOgiwara Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Safe to say if Maupay was a "young Robbie Keane" or good enough quality to be worth looking at, he'd be linked to clubs all over the place and we'd have massive competition. I don't think that's the case, and that says everything I need to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted June 8, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted June 8, 2019 (edited) It's kinda fighting how many players we need to sign this window. Looking at our squad, how many of those players would you think are good enough for a first team in the Premier League. I'd say... Steer/Kalinic (maybe?) Grealish McGinn ... That's probably about it. That means we need to sign... LB CB CB RB DM LM RM CF At least, and they all have to be of a quality that's good enough for the first eleven, and they all have to hit the ground running. Quite an ask . Edited June 8, 2019 by PieFacE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulaziz1 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Mazrim said: I know all this. I know Wolves are ahead in terms of squad development. I was and am talking about our ability to sign a player. Or how likely it is a player would join us. I’m not if we can be favorites to them in terms of players. Every player we sign will have an eye on us going down, that would make personal terms a bit harder to agree. In the Wolves case they won’t have that issue I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 28 minutes ago, sne said: I just think that on the rare occasions we will have to play our 4th or 5th CB we should use someone from our own ranks and not spend money however little on a signing bonus and contract for a over the hill bench warmer. That’s a fair point. Do we have any young centre halves at the moment? Last I saw we released quite a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Vive_La_Villa said: That’s a fair point. Do we have any young centre halves at the moment? Last I saw we released quite a few. Revan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, PieFacE said: It's kinda fighting how many players we need to sign this window. Looking at our squad, how many of those players would you think are good enough for a first team in the Premier League. I'd say... Steer/Kalinic (maybe?) Grealish McGinn ... That's probably about it. That means we need to sign... LB CB CB RB DM LM RM CF At least, and they all have to be of a quality that's good enough for the first eleven, and they all have to hit the ground running. Quite an ask . We have Gilbert and Elmo at RB, one less to buy unless you really want another RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: Safe to say if Maupay was a "young Robbie Keane" or good enough quality to be worth looking at, he'd be linked to clubs all over the place and we'd have massive competition. I don't think that's the case, and that says everything I need to know. Saying that it was only Coventry that took a chance on Robbie Keane for 6m (which was big money back then). Although he was a couple of years younger than Maupay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulaziz1 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, PieFacE said: It's kinda fighting how many players we need to sign this window. Looking at our squad, how many of those players would you think are good enough for a first team in the Premier League. I'd say... Steer/Kalinic (maybe?) Grealish McGinn ... That's probably about it. That means we need to sign... LB CB CB RB DM LM RM CF At least, and they all have to be of a quality that's good enough for the first eleven, and they all have to hit the ground running. Quite an ask . There is another question to be asked, How many teams have a full first team good enough for Premier League? I think Guilbert will be ok in the PL so you can add him. I don’t think Jota is the worse winger compared to other wingers, although I’m not really sure about the quality up there since we were down. But I’ve much worse in teams that stayed up. We used to have Weimann, Richardson and those sort of players starting for us regularly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted June 8, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted June 8, 2019 Just now, MaVilla said: We have Gilbert and Elmo at RB, one less to buy unless you really want another RB. True, I'm hoping that Gilbert is good enough for a first 11 in the PL. I hope we don't go into the season with Elmo as first choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 9 minutes ago, PieFacE said: It's kinda fighting how many players we need to sign this window. Looking at our squad, how many of those players would you think are good enough for a first team in the Premier League. I'd say... Steer/Kalinic (maybe?) Grealish McGinn ... That's probably about it. That means we need to sign... LB CB CB RB DM LM RM CF At least, and they all have to be of a quality that's good enough for the first eleven, and they all have to hit the ground running. Quite an ask . I think we will struggle next season. I really hope the club are confident in their plan. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Saying that it was only Coventry that took a chance on Robbie Keane for 6m (which was big money back then). Although he was a couple of years younger than Maupay. Big difference I'd say. Keane was a teenager. You can expect crazy development in the right players. It's not reasonable Maupay will exceed the level he's at when he's turning 23. At least that's my thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Lots of new players...many there first chance to show they can cut in the PL...a packed VP.... .I think we will survive of andrelin alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mazrim Posted June 8, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, abdulaziz1 said: I’m not if we can be favorites to them in terms of players. Every player we sign will have an eye on us going down, that would make personal terms a bit harder to agree. In the Wolves case they won’t have that issue I guess. Last post on this subject. Players signed for Wolves in the Championship when there was no guarantee of going up, never mind being relegated. Players dont care. They will ask for relegation release clauses if it bothers them. Is the money right? Does the profile of the club suit them? Are they likely to be playing with good players? 3rd richest owners in the country, one of the biggest clubs, exciting times promised... I think we can expect to find even potential top players (like Gomez) more than interested in us. This isnt Lerners meandering Villa so dont keep saying so and so will never come. That's all I'm saying. The end 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwpzxjor1 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 11 minutes ago, PieFacE said: It's kinda fighting how many players we need to sign this window. Looking at our squad, how many of those players would you think are good enough for a first team in the Premier League. I'd say... Steer/Kalinic (maybe?) Grealish McGinn ... This is frighteningly accurate. However : LB CB - Mings , hopeful this deal will get done CB - Hause - stories are this is done RB DM LM RM - El Ghazi - stories are this is close to done CF - obvioisly actively pursuing this position with talk of Maupey, possibility still of Abraham. So that's half the list already very much in the pipeline. Plenty of time left in the window. It is funny how many big money signings we need to make just to assemble a similar squad to last year... whereas most promoted teams spend big to add on to the squad that got them promoted. That's the curse of loans. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, hippo said: Lots of new players...many there first chance to show they can cut in the PL...a packed VP.... .I think we will survive of andrelin alone. or the "fans" will turn nasty after a few bad results, thats my real concern, we really need to be behind the team next season, the last thing they need is fans expecting too much and getting on the teams / managers back if we find it tough at times. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaAlex Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Nigel Adkins has just left Hull I wonder if we could sneak in and get Bowen on the cheap. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 The decks have been cleared for a reason. We're going to be very very busy, very very soon. Worry about what the squad looks like on the eve of battle. Not now. I reckon we'll be buzzing by that time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meregreen Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 23 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: Safe to say if Maupay was a "young Robbie Keane" or good enough quality to be worth looking at, he'd be linked to clubs all over the place and we'd have massive competition. I don't think that's the case, and that says everything I need to know. Super John McGinn was only linked to us and Celtic. There isn’t always a queue of clubs for even the best of players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted June 8, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted June 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mazrim said: The decks have been cleared for a reason. We're going to be very very busy, very very soon. Worry about what the squad looks like on the eve of battle. Not now. I reckon we'll be buzzing by that time. Hope you're right! No reason to doubt the board, but with our squad in the state it's in, I can see other teams playing hard ball with us on fees 'cos we're pretty desperate for players already. Interesting summer ahead all the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, VillaAlex said: Nigel Adkins has just left Hull I wonder if we could sneak in and get Bowen on the cheap. reading between the lines (so could be wrong), he wanted to push on and keep players like Bowen, but the club want to stay in the championship and sell their major assets like Bowen. Thats the only way i can see that their futures arent aligned, the manager wants to progress, spend some money and keep their best players, the club want to sell their best assets and do it much slower maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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