NurembergVillan Posted June 15, 2020 Moderator Share Posted June 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Thats irrelevant. So thats acceptable then ? Both parties deserve the same punishment. It was a joke... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 Just wanted to post that Patrick Hutchinson is a hero for saving that mans life. An act like does more for bringing people together than anything else. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 Shocked about the news about the muppet jailed for pissing... I was convinced he would be a West Ham fan, not Spurs! That's me £5 down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 15, 2020 Author Share Posted June 15, 2020 27 minutes ago, NurembergVillan said: It was a joke... Ah ok i let you Off NV 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 (edited) It's not the main discussion point I'd be raising based on the weekend's events but...she's kind of right, no? It seems the public decency is outraged by pissing within an unspecified range of a memorial, and I think we need our top legal minds to be reviewing the case law to check what that range is. Within a foot of a policeman's memorial is clearly unacceptable, even if you're aiming away from it. What about within a yard of a memorial bench? Does the direction and trajectory matter? These are all questions I think need to be answered. Is it the piss that's offensive, or the proximity of exposed genitals; what if you decant the piss into a super soaker? Edited June 15, 2020 by Davkaus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddywhack Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 8 minutes ago, Davkaus said: It's not the main discussion point I'd be raising based on the weekend's events but...she's kind of right, no? It seems the public decency is outraged by pissing within an unspecified range of a memorial, and I think we need our top legal minds to be reviewing the case law to check what that range is. Within a foot of a policeman's memorial is clearly unacceptable, even if you're aiming away from it. What about within a yard of a memorial bench? Does the direction and trajectory matter? These are all questions I think need to be answered. Is it the piss that's offensive, or the proximity of exposed genitals; what if you decant the piss into a super soaker? When I first saw the pic, I have to admit I did think he’s probably too drunk to see his own willy, let alone the memorial. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Paddywhack said: When I first saw the pic, I have to admit I did think he’s probably too drunk to see his own willy, let alone the memorial. I think that's almost certainly the case. I don't feel particularly comfortable defending the kind of bloke that pisses in the street at a protest against anti-facists, but if he had any intent to desecrate the memorial, I imagine the idiot wouldn't have thought twice about aiming straight at it. The photo makes it look exactly like the desperate piss in the first available corner you'll see just off Broad Street most weekend evenings. Being pissed doesn't entitle you to have a slash where you like, but the more I consider it the more inappropriate a prison sentence seems. Edited June 15, 2020 by Davkaus 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Davkaus said: It's not the main discussion point I'd be raising based on the weekend's events but...she's kind of right, no? It seems the public decency is outraged by pissing within an unspecified range of a memorial, and I think we need our top legal minds to be reviewing the case law to check what that range is. Within a foot of a policeman's memorial is clearly unacceptable, even if you're aiming away from it. What about within a yard of a memorial bench? Does the direction and trajectory matter? These are all questions I think need to be answered. Is it the piss that's offensive, or the proximity of exposed genitals; what if you decant the piss into a super soaker? Julie Brewer, splash zone expert witness services. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 7 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Guys who urinated has been jailed hopefully some arrests for those right wing idiots and the idiots who vandlaised the churchill statue Really? I agree I hope that those that broke laws on both sides get treated the same in way court. If one of the fights is equality in the justice system it needs to start here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Xela said: Shocked about the news about the muppet jailed for pissing... I was convinced he would be a West Ham fan, not Spurs! That's me £5 down. Seriously though it royally pisses me off that football has been dragged in to it In court he said he was a spurs fan and had gone there with a bunch of football lads That's all of us tarred with the same brush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Davkaus said: I think that's almost certainly the case. I don't feel particularly comfortable defending the kind of bloke that pisses in the street at a protest against anti-facists, but if he had any intent to desecrate the memorial, I imagine the idiot wouldn't have thought twice about aiming straight at it. The photo makes it look exactly like the desperate piss in the first available corner you'll see just off Broad Street most weekend evenings. Being pissed doesn't entitle you to have a slash where you like, but the more I consider it the more inappropriate a prison sentence seems. He’s been a made an example of hasn’t he? We better all watch where we piss from now on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Really? I agree I hope that those that broke laws on both sides get treated the same in way court. If one of the fights is equality in the justice system it needs to start here. Anticipating the inevitable outrage on social media that no one was sent to jail for spray painting Churchill... No one has been arrested for it have they? They don't know who it is There would be equality however the criminals last week had the sense to cover themselves up rather than drinking 20 cans of lager and forgetting where they were Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Anticipating the inevitable outrage on social media that no one was sent to jail for spray painting Churchill... No one has been arrested for it have they? They don't know who it is There would be equality however the criminals last week had the sense to cover themselves up rather than drinking 20 cans of lager and forgetting where they were True. These guys are words removed but he was just off his head and had a piss in the wrong place. We’ve all done it before. (Although not on a statue). A prison sentance seems crazy. Maybe there was more to it and he already had criminal record., past offences etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 15, 2020 Author Share Posted June 15, 2020 One BLM and one right wing both in court on seperate offences attacking police officers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 15, 2020 Moderator Share Posted June 15, 2020 42 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Really? I agree I hope that those that broke laws on both sides get treated the same in way court. If one of the fights is equality in the justice system it needs to start here. Breaking the law doesn't involve being on a side. You break the law, you get punished according to the tarrifs for that offence, which takes into account past offences committed, the severity of the offence committed this time snd lots of other factors. Looking at it as "sides" and comparing sentences is a foolish foolish game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, bickster said: Breaking the law doesn't involve being on a side. You break the law, you get punished according to the tarrifs for that offence, which takes into account past offences committed, the severity of the offence committed this time snd lots of other factors. Looking at it as "sides" and comparing sentences is a foolish foolish game That was my point mate although I may not have made it as well as I should have as usual Edited June 15, 2020 by Vive_La_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 Prison for that is daft. I was happy enough with it publicly making a mockery of what they were in London for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Really? I agree I hope that those that broke laws on both sides get treated the same in way court. If one of the fights is equality in the justice system it needs to start here. The guy that painted on Churchills statue will never be caught and he wont hand himself in like the guy who pissed next to the memorial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, PaulC said: The guy that painted on Churchills statue will never be caught and he wont hand himself in like the guy who pissed next to the memorial. What's your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 He must have had previous. There’s no way that crime warranted a prison sentence. Serial pisser. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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