DCJonah Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 It's mad that he's created this issue for no reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 IMHO,irrespective of what anyone says/posts there has got to be a split in the dressing room now.There WILL be players that like Mings and his captainsy and there will be players that dont,so,In one foul swoop SG has devided the dressing room ?! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, PussEKatt said: IMHO,irrespective of what anyone says/posts there has got to be a split in the dressing room now.There WILL be players that like Mings and his captainsy and there will be players that dont,so,In one foul swoop SG has devided the dressing room ?! Not too many managers last long when the dressing room is divided. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustibrooks Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Here's a thought, didn't one of these Villa podcasters say that we are in for a 'shock' departure this summer? I know it could be BS and things change, but with the way everything is going could it be Mings? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 As I said above SG simply MUST have caused a split in the dressing room because there WILL be players that like Mings and there WILL be players that dont like mings.Unless of coursewe have a team of zombies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheltenham_villa Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Nothing brings the villa fan base together like someone else slagging off Tyrone Mings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 9 minutes ago, PussEKatt said: IMHO,irrespective of what anyone says/posts there has got to be a split in the dressing room now.There WILL be players that like Mings and his captainsy and there will be players that dont,so,In one foul swoop SG has devided the dressing room ?! I think it may have been Digne or Coutinho (or Emi?) that spoke about the welcome that they'd had at the club and referred specifically to "Captain Mings" in this statement, which suggests that people got a good feeling from the bloke as skipper. I think he's well liked and respected by the lads. I do wonder if this intimidated Gerrard given that we've seen him lash out at journalists multiple times in his time here. And it was clear from before his first game that Tyrone was a caretaker skipper, constantly undermined in pressers, Saturday was a continuation of the disrespectful manner in which Gerrard has spoken about Mings for his entire time at the club. Mings from what we've seen, at a fan event, his response after losing the captaincy has spoken with respect about Gerrard the entire time. It wouldn't surprise me if his teammates (even one's that aren't close to Tyrone) are thinking that the way Gerrard has conducted himself around this has been out of order, with some of the respect they had for Gerrard being lost in the process. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 10 minutes ago, cheltenham_villa said: Nothing brings the villa fan base together like someone else slagging off Tyrone Mings. Only we're allowed to slag him off 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul33 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Way too much over-thinking in this thread ...... from my experiences in life, the reality is always boring rather than sensational !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan501 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 21 minutes ago, Rustibrooks said: Here's a thought, didn't one of these Villa podcasters say that we are in for a 'shock' departure this summer? I know it could be BS and things change, but with the way everything is going could it be Mings? Certainly looks like mings will not feature, selling mings especially to a rival will be a massive mistake. If he requests a move we have brought this on ourselves, going from skipper to absolutely nothing is a disgrace and that's on Stev Gerrard 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 44 minutes ago, PussEKatt said: IMHO,irrespective of what anyone says/posts there has got to be a split in the dressing room now.There WILL be players that like Mings and his captainsy and there will be players that dont,so,In one foul swoop SG has devided the dressing room ?! Exactly. This is IMO an argument why it can be smart to play down the importance of captaincy the way a lot of clubs in Europe do, and managers like Pep and Klopp letting the players decide. By elevating the importance of captaincy you’ll be more likely to end up in pointless drama like this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Mic09 said: It's a picture at the train station. Well it's not just 'a picture at the train station' is it? There's a lot more to it than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reivax_Villa Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 15 minutes ago, lexicon said: Well it's not just 'a picture at the train station' is it? There's a lot more to it than that. There is. But a picture from 3 years ago doesn't give any context into the behind the scenes happenings at the club. He is a commited club loving man. We are yet to find out if Gerrard made the right call. I won't judge it just yet. All we know is that his comments were unnecessary. But maybe it was the right decision. Let's see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted August 9, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 9, 2022 13 minutes ago, Reivax_Villa said: simon jordan hasn't a clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 I like Mings, however I'm not a professional footballer or coach/Manager. First Southgate, then Gerrard, now Souness are three who do not rate him... Maybe Carlos and Chambers are the two then? Because Konsa is pretty average too...and may have played himself out of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, tomav84 said: simon jordan hasn't a clue. Yeah, doesn't know enough about the situation or Mings performances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: I like Mings, however I'm not a professional footballer or coach/Manager. First Southgate, then Gerrard, now Souness are three who do not rate him... Maybe Carlos and Chambers are the two then? Because Konsa is pretty average too...and may have played himself out of the team. Southgate picks Maguire. Souness hasn't managed in ages. Gerrard seems to have limited judgement at this point. Smith got sacked after he dropped Mings. But, I can see how Mings is a droppable player. You are right, outside Villa he isn't universally praised. My issue isn't with dropping Mings. It's with giving the captaincy to a player who is arguably just as droppable. There must be something behind the scenes that we will not know about until Gerrard or Mings write a book. Edited August 9, 2022 by Mic09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 1 hour ago, PussEKatt said: IMHO,irrespective of what anyone says/posts there has got to be a split in the dressing room now.There WILL be players that like Mings and his captainsy and there will be players that dont,so,In one foul swoop SG has devided the dressing room ?! Been at work. Can anyone inform me, has anything new happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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