villalad21 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Just now, Demitri_C said: Thats the fonal piece of the puzzle. BUT it cant be denied he has saved this club from oblivion. If he never got us promoted we could have been the next forest or sheff wed. He also took us to a cup final in his 1st PL season. The guys done a remarkable job here. People in the media were praising wilder and now biesla but what about smith?? The guys done a terrific job. This season he has made the seemingly impossible happen Reputation isn't build in a year. Smith has been a lower league coach for most of his career. If he keeps getting results his reputation will naturally rise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NurembergVillan Posted November 9, 2020 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2020 10 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Smith has been a lower league coach for most of his career. Unlike Chris Wilder who has *checks notes* one season of top flight football on his CV. 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 1 minute ago, NurembergVillan said: Unlike Chris Wilder who has *checks notes* one season of top flight football on his CV. Smith would get the same praise if he did what Wilder did last season. And if he finishes top half this season i will promise you he will get the credit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted November 9, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted November 9, 2020 1 hour ago, TrentVilla said: I still maintain those two games could very easily have gone the other way. If we had taken our chances against Leeds and not made preventable errors against Southampton. As you say incredible progress from last season. I hope we can add a player or two come January. You are right there. Still think we were rubbish against Leeds, but Southampton’s xG showed they were crazy lucky. All set pieces, which we should be able to deal with. I reckon we’ll do better against the good sides this season. The ones that don't sit back, and that allow us to counter. Wouldn’t surprise me if we have a season of incredible results, followed by some real head scratchers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 3 hours ago, HKP90 said: This. I think we will drop off toward the end of the season simply because of the depth issues. That’s where we’re a WIP. It was always going to take time to transition a Championship squad to a Premier squad. Just hope fans don’t overreact when that inevitably happens, cos I think we’re on the way to building something quite special here. Absolutely agree with this. If it doesn't happen then that would be unexpected. Our form may continue all season, but we absolutely should not be expecting it to. Going to be fun finding out though, even if our off days become more common towards the end of the season. Our on days are something worth waiting for. Loving what Smith and the rest of the management team have achieved these last 2 years, the results now really do speak for themselves. A combined 10-2 scoreline against the League and FA Cup winners from last year is amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 9 minutes ago, HKP90 said: You are right there. Still think we were rubbish against Leeds, but Southampton’s xG showed they were crazy lucky. All set pieces, which we should be able to deal with. I reckon we’ll do better against the good sides this season. The ones that don't sit back, and that allow us to counter. Wouldn’t surprise me if we have a season of incredible results, followed by some real head scratchers. The people who actually properly analyzed that Southampton game would say it was a freak and that Southampton had an abnormal effectivity. I said it was a good game from us one week ago and i still say the same now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 9 hours ago, zab6359 said: Tough life sucks at times. I'd be pissed off if I were Watkins on 2 goals trying to get a third with fifteen mins left and was subbed for Davis lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 30 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Thats the fonal piece of the puzzle. BUT it cant be denied he has saved this club from oblivion. If he never got us promoted we could have been the next forest or sheff wed. He also took us to a cup final in his 1st PL season. The guys done a remarkable job here. People in the media were praising wilder and now biesla but what about smith?? The guys done a terrific job. This season he has made the seemingly impossible happen We would of been a Leeds if Smith had not took us up, sticking to the championship for a decade or more. For what Smith had to work with he surely made a miracle happen last season keeping us up. This season is really good, I think Smith and other english managers alike are paving the way for an english football comeback, unless your name is Gareth Southgate .. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted November 9, 2020 Moderator Share Posted November 9, 2020 21 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Smith would get the same praise if he did what Wilder did last season. And if he finishes top half this season i will promise you he will get the credit. That's fair enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, Dave-R said: We would of been a Leeds if Smith had not took us up, sticking to the championship for a decade or more. For what Smith had to work with he surely made a miracle happen last season keeping us up. This season is really good, I think Smith and other english managers alike are paving the way for an english football comeback, unless your name is Gareth Southgate .. If we did not go for Smith i think these owners regardless would get another good coach and give them the same backing. They seem to know what they are doing and we are very lucky to have them- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 May have been said already but I think we’ve been the first game on MOTD/MOTD2 for 4 of the last 5 weeks, the only game we weren’t on first was Leeds and that was a Friday night game. Its not dull any more is it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Is the no fans helping us. What is everyone's thoughts about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 3 points off top with a game in hand is mental. Imagine if we can keep up with a 1.7 - 2 points per match average for the whole season? Very early days of course, and I'm worried about injuries and suspensions. However, at least this season, our " worst " team, will be stronger than last season's. Plus on this trajectory we should already have secured enough points to keep us well clear of danger early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 1 minute ago, villalad21 said: Is the no fans helping us. What is everyone's thoughts about that? I'm wondering myself, could be a secret blessing. A season with no fans give these lads time to settle and a little less pressure. By the time fans are allowed back in they should be well gelled and settled, and hopefully thrive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted November 9, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted November 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, villalad21 said: If we did not go for Smith i think these owners regardless would get another good coach and give them the same backing. They seem to know what they are doing and we are very lucky to have them- whilst you're not wrong, i suspect we'd have gone for a continental option that would've been a gamble. would that manager have struck up the same relationship with jack? would he have attracted barkley/watkins? what about the dynamic with JT, who was appointed by the owners prior to DS coming in? so many ifs and buts, but having a fan as manager is a massive plus here. i doubt a continental manager would've survived last winter, personally. fans were starting to turn against DS (as you know better than anyone)...but it was nowhere near as vicious as it would've been had it not been 'one of our own' remember how heavily linked henry was with us, under these owners...no smoke without fire. i agree we're lucky to have them, but these owners were very close to getting it very, very wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 1 minute ago, tomav84 said: whilst you're not wrong, i suspect we'd have gone for a continental option that would've been a gamble. would that manager have struck up the same relationship with jack? would he have attracted barkley/watkins? what about the dynamic with JT, who was appointed by the owners prior to DS coming in? so many ifs and buts, but having a fan as manager is a massive plus here. i doubt a continental manager would've survived last winter, personally. fans were starting to turn against DS (as you know better than anyone)...but it was nowhere near as vicious as it would've been had it not been 'one of our own' remember how heavily linked henry was with us, under these owners...no smoke without fire. i agree we're lucky to have them, but these owners were very close to getting it very, very wrong. Henry was just rumours though wasn't it? I am genuinely curious who were on their actual shortlist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted November 9, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted November 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Henry was just rumours though wasn't it? I am genuinely curious who were on their actual shortlist. i think bookies stopped taking bets at one point...it was more than that, it was absolutely nailed on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DaveAV1 Posted November 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2020 29 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Smith would get the same praise if he did what Wilder did last season. And if he finishes top half this season i will promise you he will get the credit. Sheffield United have 1 point from 8 games. I doubt very much that you would find that an acceptable return if Dean Smith had got the same. Even if we had won the league last season. We are currently sitting 6th having played 7 games. If we won our game in hand we’d be top and yet you and other posters constantly find any excuse to pick holes in Dean Smith’s management. The other manager you appear to view through the rosiest of glasses, has his team sitting in 15th. Despite recently beating us they have 5 less points from a game more and with a goal difference of 12 worse than ours. Dean Smith is part of a team of people both on and off the pitch, in a variety of roles, who have overseen a remarkable turn around in the fortunes of our football club. About two and a half years ago the club was on the brink of going out of existence having become a total basket case of a club in recent years. The people involved didn’t have the luxury of being able to quietly and slowly improve things away from the spotlight. They’ve done this under the glare of huge publicity that comes with such a massive and historic English football club. Inevitably the position of manager is under more scrutiny than most and so in my mind deserves more praise than most. Dean Smith, under extremely difficult circumstances and in the white hot heat of a media that often want us to fail, has always stood tall, faced the pressure and come through successfully. He’s extremely proud to be manager of Aston Villa the team he supports. We should be equally proud and supportive of him. Thanks Dean. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onmeedson Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 That was wonderful to watch last night, all credit to dean and the boys they got a grip of the game and never let up. The work rate from the middle three made the difference and gave Watkins the service in the area to do the damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 3 hours ago, TrentVilla said: I still maintain those two games could very easily have gone the other way. If we had taken our chances against Leeds and not made preventable errors against Southampton. As you say incredible progress from last season. I hope we can add a player or two come January. To help us to secure our place in the top four - Wes and Nas will be all over that one! I like your thinking TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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