Hornso Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Where's @screwdriver been? Toolbox most likely. Edited July 24, 2020 by Hornso 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 24, 2020 Author Share Posted July 24, 2020 On 22/07/2020 at 19:23, Brentfordnylons said: Deans been on the phone to Thomas today to wish him luck,proper bloke is Dean That went well didnt it? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG_Villa_Fan Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Dean deserves to keep his job, regardless of the league we're in next season. No one should be a victim of their own success - promoting us earlier than anyone had anticipated and then having to do such an enormous rebuilding job. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, tinker said: He seems to have given us progression so far. It's easy to miss it from inside the washing machine of emotions supporting villa gives us, I'm as bad as anyone , one bad result or poor decision and I'm pissed. However when I stagger back and look at what has actually happened over the last 18 months...it's been nothing short of miraculous Promotion, cup final , record amount of wins, rebuilding a team from nothing with a director of football helping to pick players. If it was any other clubs manager then I would see it more objectively. On paper yes. Point i am making is you can't keep conceding 70 goals every season. Eventually your luck will run out. 2nd worst team on defensive set pieces as well. That's just basics and not good enough. If we do stay up we need to see these major flaws rectified. The thing i'm getting at is context. If we are still conceding 60-70 goals next season that's simply unacceptable. Edited July 24, 2020 by villalad21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 On 11/08/2019 at 09:54, DCJonah said: We don't need. Fans need to get these stupid ideas of us finishing higher out of their heads. If we finish higher then great. But there is one goal this year and that is to finish 17th. As a club we need to change our mindset for 12 months. Never before has 17th been an achievement, so i get why people will struggle to change but we really need to. said it nearly a year ago and still stand by it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted July 24, 2020 Visiting Supporter Share Posted July 24, 2020 3 hours ago, villalad21 said: On paper yes. Point i am making is you can't keep conceding 70 goals every season. Eventually your luck will run out. 2nd worst team on defensive set pieces as well. That's just basics and not good enough. If we do stay up we need to see these major flaws rectified. The thing i'm getting at is context. If we are still conceding 60-70 goals next season that's simply unacceptable. Have you not been watching Villa games since lockdown? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Just now, striker said: Have you not been watching Villa games since lockdown? No of course not, everything has continued to get worse. You have to stick to the script. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 12 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Where's @screwdriver been? I miss his playful babble. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 14 hours ago, DCJonah said: When? In our 2nd game we conceded 2 comical goals. In our 4th game, palace bullied us. Then we couldn't beat a 10 man west ham team. I keep reading this, as a way to complain about smith, but its just rubbish. Defensively we are better, luiz, konza and trez are much better than they were earlier in the year and our performance in the last game is arguably the best of the season. So when were we much better? And if Nketiah's header had gone in no positivity would be around. The performance wouldn't have been good. Smith was clueless again etc etc. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 31 minutes ago, striker said: Have you not been watching Villa games since lockdown? He's probably a Birmingham fan, so probably not? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 15 hours ago, villalad21 said: Fair f***ing play if he keeps us up. But we absolutely cannot be in this situation next season. Have to see progression. Can't keep conceding 60+ goals every season. Agree but to be fair post lockdown restart we have actually looked OK defensively, much better now. Konsa for one is starting to look really good in this league.. Just need to win no matter what on Sunday and evaluate what happens next.. as it stands we can still go down which is frustrating so hopefully get the result on Sunday. If we stay up I’d have to admit I was wrong and it’s been a successful season, I said from the start I would take a 17th place finish and we are on course to get that (albeit in strange nervous ways) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 As long we we don’t get relegated and he keeps taking us to Wembley every year he will be ok. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 10 minutes ago, Adam2003 said: As long we we don’t get relegated and he keeps taking us to Wembley every year he will be ok. One trip to the green a season required to keep fans onside. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 3 hours ago, striker said: Have you not been watching Villa games since lockdown? Yes and we've been much improved. I applaud that. Doesn't mean we should ignore everything that happened prior to the lockdown. To me it's unacceptable how the players lost belief after Man Utd scored. Even Smith admitting to it in his post match interview is even more worrying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomvilla7 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 I think I've said this somewhere before but there are only two other managers out there that I would want (and who I think we could actually get). One is Rafa and the other is Marcello Gallardo. Aside from them, Dean deserves to stay in the job. I think he has proven very capable and was up against very tough circumstances. Massive injuries to key players and a huge rebuilding job due to getting promoted ahead of schedule. The improvement since lockdown should be applauded too. Results aside we have tightened up at the back and we have become more competitive. Lacking firepower up top is obvious and just something that hasn't worked out in his favour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, Bomvilla7 said: I think I've said this somewhere before but there are only two other managers out there that I would want (and who I think we could actually get). One is Rafa and the other is Marcello Gallardo. Aside from them, Dean deserves to stay in the job. I think he has proven very capable and was up against very tough circumstances. Massive injuries to key players and a huge rebuilding job due to getting promoted ahead of schedule. The improvement since lockdown should be applauded too. Results aside we have tightened up at the back and we have become more competitive. Lacking firepower up top is obvious and just something that hasn't worked out in his favour. You wouldn't want Pochettino then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Seems as if he’s been told he’s staying in the job regardless what happens Sunday going off his pre-match presser. Outlined the plans for the summer, pre-season camps etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaCas Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 19 hours ago, villalad21 said: Fair f***ing play if he keeps us up. But we absolutely cannot be in this situation next season. Have to see progression. Can't keep conceding 60+ goals every season. Took over a 14th place team and took them to promotion 5th place in the Championship to (hopefully) 17th place in the PL Is that enough progression for you (or are we special and should expect more?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 7 minutes ago, VillaCas said: Took over a 14th place team and took them to promotion 5th place in the Championship to (hopefully) 17th place in the PL Is that enough progression for you (or are we special and should expect more?) if you properly read my post I was talking about next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomvilla7 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 1 hour ago, villalad21 said: You wouldn't want Pochettino then? Of course I would, I just don't think we can get him is all. I'd love to be proved wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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