DaveAV1 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Last chance saloon, more duds this window and he has to go. I don’t entirely disagree with that, it’s the nature of the business. However I’m not so sure if it’s more of a policy problem rather than the actual signings. We appear to have a policy of buying for the future, which is good, but have forgotten about the now. As in most things in life it’s about balance. We have a chance to address that now, but haven’t left ourselves with much room for error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 I so hope they know what they are doing this time. Can't judge a transfer window until it closes but huge alarm bells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elton Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, sne said: I so hope they know what they are doing this time. Can't judge a transfer window until it closes but huge alarm bells. I don’t see why. Drinkwater didn’t upset anything at Burnley as far as I can see. He was an unused sub in their last PL match against us. If he was a loose cannon then I doubt he’d be on their bench. Dyche also spoke positively of him. I’d say an encouraging start to a very difficult window. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Just now, Elton said: I don’t see why. Drinkwater didn’t upset anything at Burnley as far as I can see. He was an unused sub in their last PL match against us. If he was a loose cannon then I doubt he’d be on their bench. Dyche also spoke positively of him. I’d say an encouraging start to a very difficult window. U missed the part where he was beaten up while drunk and couldn't play for a month? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 minute ago, sne said: U missed the part where he was beaten up while drunk and couldn't play for a month? hopefully a big lesson learned 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elton Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, sne said: U missed the part where he was beaten up while drunk and couldn't play for a month? No, I didn’t miss that part at all. Edit: to elaborate, I haven’t seen anything that indicated that incident where he was a victim upset the dressing room somehow. Edited January 7, 2020 by Elton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) On 01/01/2020 at 12:06, DaveAV1 said: I don’t entirely disagree with that, it’s the nature of the business. However I’m not so sure if it’s more of a policy problem rather than the actual signings. We appear to have a policy of buying for the future, which is good, but have forgotten about the now. As in most things in life it’s about balance. We have a chance to address that now, but haven’t left ourselves with much room for error. Well, when we signed for " Now" that was wrong.....now we are signing for the future and that is being questioned. I just want them to be good enough, irrespective of their age......but yes, Balance is the key. Judging, so far, I don't think we have as many options out there of any ilk ,as we would like. Edited January 7, 2020 by TRO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TRO Posted January 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Elton said: No, I didn’t miss that part at all. Edit: to elaborate, I haven’t seen anything that indicated that incident where he was a victim upset the dressing room somehow. Not so long ago our best player was getting headlines for a similar thing......but changed. He has been given a chance, he has to take it......He can be a very capable player, if he applies himself. However, I have no idea of the extent of his personal problems.....I am just hoping the club do. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 I don't know the story behind it, but if I had a drink and then got attacked, I'd be pretty annoyed if that was a reason I wasn't hired for better jobs considering from the words 'got beaten up' it sounds like he was a victim of being in the wrong place at the wrong time and happened to have had a drink. (If the story behind it shows he was at fault, that's different) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG_Villa_Fan Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, TRO said: Not so long ago our best player was getting headlines for a similar thing......but changed. There’s a world of difference between a teenager and a 30 year old man. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 hour ago, sne said: U missed the part where he was beaten up while drunk and couldn't play for a month? That was bad, but just means he can’t handle his drink and ran his mouth off to the wrong person. Players are allowed to go out (I think it was another Burnley player who helped sort him out after he took a kicking). Dyche doesn’t seem to be the kind of manager to tolerate a lazy or unreliable type, so presumably he was turning up to training on time every day and putting in a decent shift. Hopefully learnt his lesson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, KentVillan said: That was bad, but just means he can’t handle his drink and ran his mouth off to the wrong person. Players are allowed to go out (I think it was another Burnley player who helped sort him out after he took a kicking). Dyche doesn’t seem to be the kind of manager to tolerate a lazy or unreliable type, so presumably he was turning up to training on time every day and putting in a decent shift. Hopefully learnt his lesson. I don't really know much about Dyche tbh, for all I know he might be one of those that thinks it's OK for the lads to go out and get shitfaced from time to time. Dyche might have rated Drinkwater, didn't extend his loan thou. But yeah hopefully they did all the job in getting him back to match fitness and we can now reap the rewards. Would be a nice change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 20 minutes ago, HalfTimePost said: I don't know the story behind it, but if I had a drink and then got attacked, I'd be pretty annoyed if that was a reason I wasn't hired for better jobs considering from the words 'got beaten up' it sounds like he was a victim of being in the wrong place at the wrong time and happened to have had a drink. (If the story behind it shows he was at fault, that's different) He was trying to nick another players missus in a nightclub with him there. Started giving the big bollocks that he was a Premier League winner and the other lad wasnt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, sne said: I don't really know much about Dyche tbh, for all I know he might be one of those that thinks it's OK for the lads to go out and get shitfaced from time to time. Dyche might have rated Drinkwater, didn't extend his loan thou. He didn't fit into the Burnley leg breaking mould for Dyche. Westwood even loved a dangerous cowardly tackle 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 7 hours ago, BG_Villa_Fan said: There’s a world of difference between a teenager and a 30 year old man. Once you get a few years past 30 you realise there really isn’t... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) I think Suso is doing a good job. We have been stiffed by injuries and squad churn. Impossible to build an entire team in a summer and not have a few flops. I hope he does learn from his mistakes of course. He and Smith are clearly hoping Drinkwater can be a good piece in the double pivot so let's see. If we get a Piatek type signing over the line too, we are looking a whole lot healthier again. We probably need 4/5 players this window. Edited January 8, 2020 by dont_do_it_doug. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 16 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: I think Suso is doing a good job. We have been stiffed by injuries and squad churn. Impossible to build an entire team in a summer and not have a few flops. I hope he does learn from his mistakes of course. He and Smith are clearly hoping Drinkwater can be a good piece in the double pivot so let's see. If we get a Piatek type signing over the line too, we are looking a whole lot healthier again. We probably need 4/5 players this window. I think you have to buy a whole player you can't just leave their arms at their old club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 hour ago, MotoMkali said: I think you have to buy a whole player you can't just leave their arms at their old club. What have I missed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 9 hours ago, Zatman said: He was trying to nick another players missus in a nightclub with him there. Started giving the big bollocks that he was a Premier League winner and the other lad wasnt How do you know this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 7 hours ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: What have I missed? 4/5 can mean 4 to 5 or 4 over 5 so 0.8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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