tomav84 Posted January 12, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted January 12, 2020 suso out he has signed us some absolute dross. now i can't get in the least bit excited about reina cause just cant help but think he's going to be shite too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Some of the signings look poor. We'd have been better buying more players with premier league and even championship experience. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 He has overseen a deluge of expensive shite join this football club. He has been a disaster of an appointment. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlico_Villa Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 18 hours ago, lapal_fan said: Your critism isn't entirely justified, because apart from you not being happy with what's happened so far, you don't have a **** clue what's going on at the club. You don't know what Suso has done, is doing, has spoken about, has spoken to or anything, you just make shit assumptions about him because we haven't signed a striker yet. If you want a striker that anyone or any club is willing to sell in the first few days of a window, you'd be crying about how shit that striker was after 15 mins of his debut having not scored a hat trick. As I said previously, it's obvious you don't understand how these things work. You obviously don't have any commercial nous, you obviously don't have any insider knowledge and to be honest it's obvious you don't have even basic knowledge on how DOFs operate, but keep posting like you do.. Far too many completely uninformed assumptions you’re making here to unpick, so I won’t bother educating you, save for your last point. There are far too many completely uninformed assumptions there to unpick, and I don’t have the patience to educate you, save for picking up on your last point. It’s also ironic that you’re exhibiting exactly what you are accusing me of. A DoF is there to oversee and execute on the transfer strategy. Yes, there is input from other people, but it his responsibility for execution. The shortlist of players is there, having been collectively decided by the club, and his role is to find a way of getting them in. It’s also a shame you can’t comprehend the basics of what I’ve tried to explain to you. I’ll try once more and really try and make it as simple as possible for you: no one is questioning or doubting the effort he may or may not be putting in, but what is objectively undeniable is that he has been ineffective during a period of crisis, in terms of actually delivering. For that, there is one sole criteria: bringing in accretive players that improve the starting 11. If you still can’t grasp that, then please, continue with resorting to your usual go to rebuttals of “you’re not a Club insider” rather than actual debate, which seems beyond you. Based on your comments, it’s posters like you that really bring down the average on here. I’m genuinely curious as to what any one at the club would have to do in order for the happy clappers to tolerate any criticism or allow any debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 (edited) Hard to know what his role is but whoever is responsible for signing Trezeguet, Nakamba, Wesley and Luiz needs sacking. Edited January 12, 2020 by Delphinho123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugzy1991 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: Hard to know what his role is but whoever is responsible for signing Trezeguet, Nakamba, Wesley and Luiz needs sacking. This. But there always seems to be a tendency to blame board for the bad signings and give credit to the managers for the good ones with fans at clubs. They probably all talked about the signings and all collective signed off on them Edited January 12, 2020 by Bugzy1991 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlico_Villa Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 ...Yet, there are posters in here that staunchly shot down any criticism of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugzy1991 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, Pimlico_Villa said: ...Yet, there are posters in here that staunchly shot down any criticism of him. What. Is this aimed at me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlico_Villa Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Bugzy1991 said: What. Is this aimed at me? It’s not, no. It’s aimed at those who believe that, unless you are a Club insider, no one is in a position to criticise him. Edited January 12, 2020 by Pimlico_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Can we trust this man to bring in a decent striker - seems to have wasted millions on garbage - get rid of him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 50 minutes ago, Xela said: Some of the signings look poor. We'd have been better buying more players with premier league and even championship experience. If only it was possible to learn from our previous mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlico_Villa Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Eastie said: Can we trust this man to bring in a decent striker - seems to have wasted millions on garbage - get rid of him! Not on current or historic performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 For a premier league side not to have a striker is a sacking offence if there ever was one. End of. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham t Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 As far as I know there has never been a definitive statement from the club about who has the final word on transfers. I could not imagine a situation where a manager had no input at all....That would be crazy. We spent £146 million in the summer of which only £8 million was worthwhile ( on Heaton). The 22 million on Wesley was simply money lining a clever agents pocket.... ATB VLD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted January 12, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted January 12, 2020 Liverpool has signed a player before the Jan window opened. We've known we needed another striker before Wesley got injured. It's baffling that we didn't have someone lined up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hippo Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 We have signed a load of shite for big money. For that susso must be accountable. Big signing s have flopped - but equally the likes of target, Jota , Konsa all look woeful value for the fees paid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, PieFacE said: Liverpool has signed a player before the Jan window opened. We've known we needed another striker before Wesley got injured. It's baffling that we didn't have someone lined up. It's harder for us to sign players than Liverpool but kind of take the point. 13 days now and no obvious progress. The real error was not signing two strikers, it looks like we wanted Wesley and Maupay and bulked at the price of Maupay. Proved to be a fatal error. Edited January 12, 2020 by Dr_Pangloss 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 41 minutes ago, Graham t said: As far as I know there has never been a definitive statement from the club about who has the final word on transfers. I could not imagine a situation where a manager had no input at all....That would be crazy. We spent £146 million in the summer of which only £8 million was worthwhile ( on Heaton). The 22 million on Wesley was simply money lining a clever agents pocket.... ATB VLD. I've heard Smith say he has very little to do with players incoming. That probably doesn't go quite as far as him having no knowledge of the players purchased - or players signed against his wishes. But I don't it is a big part of Smith s role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermon Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Simply signing a striker just isn't enough, we're too weak, no matter who we sign, unless it's decent premier League quality then all the players are going to need time bedding in. Truly are ****! Was a piss take relying on Wesley, Keinan and Kodjia as our strike force. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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