Villaphan04 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Just now, Stevo985 said: Wasn't that given and then reversed? Therefore the ref was still going with the VAR? Genuinely don't remember. Might be wrong. Pretty sure that was the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Wasn't that given and then reversed? Therefore the ref was still going with the VAR? Genuinely don't remember. Might be wrong. thats the way i remember it too, the ref gave it then VAR overturned it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Davkaus said: Sorry to come across all Wenger, but I've not seen those decisions yet -I was watching Spain. My feeling at the moment though is if the ref can see numerous replays from several angles, and can't get the decision right, then VAR isn't the problem. If they can't judge a decision that's clear as daylight, with the benefit of replays from several angles, why trust them more to decide in real time? VAR was obviously useful tonight in the Spain game but it was a farce in the Portugal game. Two incidents that weren't given as penalties at the time were reviewed and penalties given, even thought the consensus was that they weren't clear and probably weren't penalties. I feel as though the referee could have felt pressurised to overturn his initial decision. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tegis Posted June 25, 2018 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2018 So, either Ronaldo/Pepe or Suarez will be eliminated in the next round 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 I’m really nervous the final is gonna get remembered for some VAR confusion and ensuing farce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 The BBC moral outrage/clickbait machine in overdrive tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Just now, Tegis said: So, either Ronaldo/Pepe or Suarez will be eliminated in the next round I hope Pepe and Suarez run into each other and spontaneously combust. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post El Zen Posted June 25, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2018 I think VAR is great. If the refs make bad calls based off it, then that’s on them, not on VAR. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 3 decisions tonight he got 1 right the Ronaldo penalty and 2 wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 yeah i think tonight reinforced my original scepticism of VAR that they still need to do something about bad refs, for which the PL has a lot, you can give them all these tools but it wont stop them from being shit but at the same time i think it will serve to show up bad refs even more, this guy is going home tomorrow he wont get another game come the latter stages and the final when they've weeded out the poorer refs and we're left with the cream then the controversial decisions should stop 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 18 minutes ago, sharkyvilla said: Kinell how did Ronaldo get away with that? Should have got a yellow for diving for the penalty too. Should not have been on the pitch after the elbow incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Didn't think the 'elbow' was that bad too be honest, don't see it as a red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, Michelsen said: I think VAR is great. If the refs make bad calls based off it, then that’s on them, not on VAR. Yep I just wish they'd had a longer trial before implementing it in the biggest competition in the world. I also prefer in cricket where it's up to the players to appeal and if it's wrong they lose a review. It'll make the players put up or shut up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Keyblade said: Should have got a yellow for diving for the penalty too. Should not have been on the pitch after the elbow incident. Dunno I think the penalty was fair enough. Yeah he may have looked for it but I can see why it was given. A forearm to the face should definitely be violent conduct and I hope they can ban him retrospectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Didn't think the 'elbow' was that bad too be honest, don't see it as a red. its the fact that he knew what he was doing that makes it a red for me, that he missed him and there was minimal contact is irrelevant, he eyes him up before coming over the top of him, thats intentional 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted June 25, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted June 25, 2018 A new and much developed VAR should be used all the time in the background, without human decision making. Or not at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Saddened yet again that Portugal go through. So much cynicism, so much arrogance, competition after competition. I’m sure there are plenty who like them, but they are 70’s Leeds plus a bit for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 25, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted June 25, 2018 49 minutes ago, Xela said: VAR was obviously useful tonight in the Spain game but it was a farce in the Portugal game. Two incidents that weren't given as penalties at the time were reviewed and penalties given, even thought the consensus was that they weren't clear and probably weren't penalties. I feel as though the referee could have felt pressurised to overturn his initial decision. Again that's not really VAR though. VAR has done it's job there. It's the ref that's reviewed it and then given a wrong decision. If the ref reviews that and still waves it away then it's been used fine. I do agree on the ref being pressurised bit though. I do get the feeling they are feeling pressured into overturning decisions (although the vast majority have been correct) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 3 hours ago, Keyblade said: Should have got a yellow for diving for the penalty too. Should not have been on the pitch after the elbow incident. FIFA are not going to allow the tournament's most marketable player to be sent off and banned, it simply won't happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornso Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Can't believe Iran nearly got out of the group... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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