Zatman Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 6 hours ago, villakram said: Will it be more fun than Bruce? It is just a game and a football club. I'd like it to be fun again, remember when Villa used to be fun? This is year 8. Year 8? Villa were dire in last 18 months of MON reign and was dull football so lot longer than that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 15 minutes ago, Zatman said: Year 8? Villa were dire in last 18 months of MON reign and was dull football so lot longer than that Dire in the last 18 months? Historical revisionism. Two 6th places in that time. We weren't playing total football sure, but to claim we were dire is absurd. Milner was a joy to watch in that last season. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, MrDuck said: Dire in the last 18 months? Historical revisionism. Two 6th places in that time. We weren't playing total football sure, but to claim we were dire is absurd. Milner was a joy to watch in that last season. we player some shit football after the 2009 collapse. I remember a couple of Spurs games we never left our half and some games vs Wigan they got results of us and a Burnely game we needed a 90th minute equaliser from Heskey for example. We might have won a lot of games but football was dire Edited July 24, 2018 by Zatman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mantis Posted July 25, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2018 2 hours ago, The Fun Factory said: RDM was driven out of the door barely 3 months into the job, and on paper he had a far better CV than Henry. Jut saying. All of our foreign managers have been utter failures. Dr Jo, Houllier, Garde, RDM. If it does happen I just hope it won't be the same people down the line saying he should be sacked as the same people who want any change as long it is not Bruce. This may be a controversial view but I still believe Houllier would've turned out pretty well had he not had a recurrence of his heart problems. He at least seemed to be trying to take us in the right direction. Garde unfortunately is almost impossible to judge properly due to the shit Sherwood left us in and the absolutely poisonous nature of that squad at the time. 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 17 minutes ago, Mantis said: This may be a controversial view but I still believe Houllier would've turned out pretty well had he not had a recurrence of his heart problems. He at least seemed to be trying to take us in the right direction. Garde unfortunately is almost impossible to judge properly due to the shit Sherwood left us in and the absolutely poisonous nature of that squad at the time. Well what we can say about Garde is that he's not the guy to turn around a poisonous dressing room. Houllier was trying to get us playing better football for sure, but the reality was that he was well on his way to relegating us before the heart problems. Wrong man in the wrong place at the wrong time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 8 hours ago, MrDuck said: Well what we can say about Garde is that he's not the guy to turn around a poisonous dressing room. Houllier was trying to get us playing better football for sure, but the reality was that he was well on his way to relegating us before the heart problems. Wrong man in the wrong place at the wrong time. He could well have been in the wrong place at the wrong time but in fairness, we were virtually safe by the time he had to step back due to his health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 I dont think we were safe. We won last 2 games when he was gone which made it look more comfortable season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 We didn't pull away to safety until he'd taken a step back and McAllister had taken the reins. I think Houllier just tried to change way too much way too quickly, we simply didn't have the players to do what he wanted to do. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 I have a feeling under Henry we will be terrible defensively Make no sense changing manager 2 weeks before season starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted July 25, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted July 25, 2018 Gonna be hilarious on here later when Big Sam is unveiled 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante_Lockhart Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Either way, I can't wait until all this is over and we can concentrate on opening day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 31 minutes ago, sidcow said: Gonna be hilarious on here later when Big Sam is unveiled I would happily have Big Sam managing us than Steve Bruce 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 39 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: I have a feeling under Henry we will be terrible defensively Make no sense changing manager 2 weeks before season starts. Will be the Sherwood high line but worse as Championship players be tearing us apart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Zatman said: Will be the Sherwood high line but worse as Championship players be tearing us apart Yep that's what I think will happen. Shame he can't be player manager ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 5 hours ago, Zatman said: I dont think we were safe. We won last 2 games when he was gone which made it look more comfortable season 4 hours ago, MrDuck said: We didn't pull away to safety until he'd taken a step back and McAllister had taken the reins. I think Houllier just tried to change way too much way too quickly, we simply didn't have the players to do what he wanted to do. No, we were. It happened after the game at West Ham which we won in stoppage time. Look at the table snapshot http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/9455649.stm Not mathematically safe of course but by the time McAllister took over, relegation was never even close to likely. Although I agree that he probably tried to change too much too quickly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted July 25, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted July 25, 2018 It's very rare that there's mass hysteria from the media about a managerial replacement, but usually when there is they are usually wrong. I remember the media going crazy about Southampton replacing Adkins with Pochettino, look how that turned out. I also remember the media going OTT when Watford appointed Silva, and he did alright. So the fact that the media seem to be outraged again kinda makes me want us to hire Henry. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okonokos Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 8 minutes ago, Mantis said: No, we were. It happened after the game at West Ham which we won in stoppage time. Look at the table snapshot http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/9455649.stm Not mathematically safe of course but by the time McAllister took over, relegation was never even close to likely. Although I agree that he probably tried to change too much too quickly. Yes, that's right. I remember the Wet Spam game well and vividly remember collapsing in relief at the final whistle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted July 25, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted July 25, 2018 (edited) Kinda disappointed we haven't heard anything one way or the other. Not only on Bruce but on transfers (more importantly Grealish). Edited July 25, 2018 by PieFacE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowlersrs Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, PieFacE said: Kinda disappointed we haven't heard anything one way or the other. Not only on Bruce but on transfers (more importantly Grealish). I'm led to believe that no transfers will happen as we are under due diligence.... but yes frustrating on the Bruce front Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewiek2 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 17 hours ago, Zatman said: we player some shit football after the 2009 collapse. I remember a couple of Spurs games we never left our half and some games vs Wigan they got results of us and a Burnely game we needed a 90th minute equaliser from Heskey for example. We might have won a lot of games but football was dire Fulham at home that season sticks out for me. Never had a single shot on goal under the self-proclaim genius... I mean poisoned leprechaun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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