Shomin Geki Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 13 hours ago, bannedfromHandV said: Exactly, the rules in football used to be more of a guide to ensuring a degree of fairness, now they’re interpreted to the nth degree and often modified to admonish players of being pointed out as the cheating arseholes they actually are. For me, a penalty is an extreme reaction to an extreme situation, a player being taken out when clean through on goal, a deliberate handball on the line. Not for a tap on someone’s big toe or for someone initiating contact when the balls clearly going nowhere. Look at the number of penalties this season, it’s beyond a joke, no one wants to see this volume of penalties in football. But, maybe the problem is with me, maybe I’m stuck in the past and should welcome this new, clinical and soulless form of football. Whilst very much agreeing with this point I suppose the argument could be made that Lloris's presence alters how Ollie approaches the loose ball. He might have gotten there had the keeper not made that dash. The keeper is therefore impeding a potentially successful action and becomes responsible for the ultimate collision. But I'd still rather not see this kind of incident result in the award of a penalty. If for no other reason than the chance of a goal resulting from the play being so obviously minimal. I do fear that sometimes the (quite understandable) desire for consistency in refereeing decisions results in something of an unsporting race to the bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted May 25, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted May 25, 2021 See that Azpilicuetas red card has been rescinded, tbh it was the correct result.....well done you guys in the van though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 According to ESPN we are up one point from the season on VAR decisions and Liverpool lost 6 and were unluckiest in the league Fulham was the highest with 4 points better off because of VAR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperTed Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Slightly off topic but I found this this morning and thought it might be useful for you all, given the amount of rubbish we hear coming from numerous fan bases . . . You’re welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 11 hours ago, Zatman said: According to ESPN we are up one point from the season on VAR decisions and Liverpool lost 6 and were unluckiest in the league Fulham was the highest with 4 points better off because of VAR Did they name them? IMO its a futile exercise, ESPN for example probably wont be giving trez a pen vs Brighton but 75%+ of us on here are (yes he got the ball but he moved it half an inch and then took the man out) Its incredibly subjective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 1 minute ago, villa4europe said: Did they name them? IMO its a futile exercise, ESPN for example probably wont be giving trez a pen vs Brighton but 75%+ of us on here are (yes he got the ball but he moved it half an inch and then took the man out) Its incredibly subjective Was a bit of a breakdown on Football 365,they mentioned Trez and the Watkins disallowed goal at West Han but not the penalty after it I think looking back its just over ruled decisions 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 I don’t understand how thicker lines will help… Surely makes no difference how thick the line is? They needed to change where the judgement was made from, IMO it should be from the boot, the part that is furthest forward or back dependent on the way the player is facing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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villa4europe Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 hopefully it will run perfectly smoothly, showing PGMOL to be the problem not VAR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted June 11, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted June 11, 2021 5 hours ago, Tommo_b said: I don’t understand how thicker lines will help… Surely makes no difference how thick the line is? They needed to change where the judgement was made from, IMO it should be from the boot, the part that is furthest forward or back dependent on the way the player is facing. theoretically there's less chance of being offside by a toenail as in line means on side, and with thicker lines it increases the chances of the player being in line with the defender? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 1 hour ago, tomav84 said: theoretically there's less chance of being offside by a toenail as in line means on side, and with thicker lines it increases the chances of the player being in line with the defender? Lol I dunno, surely both lines get thicker so it still makes no difference? I’m baffled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 After a couple of days of this tournament, regardless of the lower quality compared to the PL, I'm enjoying the game so much more without intrusive VAR **** in almost every game. I really didn't enjoy last season, even though Villa did well. The PL have just sabotaged their product. This is what football should be like. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Yep, seems to be being used smartly and it’s nowhere near as visible/noticeable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Perhaps the premiership is using pgmol and var in a more corrupt fashion. The standard is a country mile better then here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 7 minutes ago, Phil Silvers said: Perhaps the premiership is using pgmol and var in a more corrupt fashion. The standard is a country mile better then here. Maybe corrupt is the wrong word, I do think they don't want it though so have no real intention of trying to get the best use of it, they want it binned off Still waiting to see one of these top European refs that has a similar body shape and age to John Moss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 (edited) So much better use so far in this tournament. Difference is euros so far only disallow goals if they simply have to e.g. the Swiss second v Wales. Prem use is to try to find obscure and mind boggling reasons to disallow every other goal scored and give penalties for any sort of contact in box. I know which method is far far better to apply. Edited June 13, 2021 by VillaChris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Macedonia's goal wouldn't have stood in the PL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 The refs are so much better. There was a classic fall and scream combo by a Dutch player and it was so refreshing that it was just play on. Every single one of those in the PL is given. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, Genie said: The refs are so much better. There was a classic fall and scream combo by a Dutch player and it was so refreshing that it was just play on. Every single one of those in the PL is given. Well. Not every single one of them, eh, Ollie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Just now, Davkaus said: Well. Not every single one of them, eh, Ollie? That was more blatant. I was more on about the better engineered ones that come with the loud scream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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