Zatman Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 12 minutes ago, chappy said: Perfect impact sub on 7 mins when the Watkins & Ings partnership isn’t working More like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 More of a 'games gone' for me rather than a broader point. Put a few mins of the Man Utd game on last night... I don't watch other teams that often. In the few mins I watched in the second half, I saw Mee's arm brush Cavani's face and then Cavani drop to the floor like someone had thrown an anvil into his face. He then gets up and proceeds to moan and argue with Dyche on the touchline. I turned it off then. Is that what football is now? **** cheating drama queens. I detest it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 43 minutes ago, Xela said: More of a 'games gone' for me rather than a broader point. Put a few mins of the Man Utd game on last night... I don't watch other teams that often. In the few mins I watched in the second half, I saw Mee's arm brush Cavani's face and then Cavani drop to the floor like someone had thrown an anvil into his face. He then gets up and proceeds to moan and argue with Dyche on the touchline. I turned it off then. Is that what football is now? **** cheating drama queens. I detest it. About 5 mins later tarkowski went up vs Greenwood in the air, wasn't a foul or anything Greenwood just didn't know he was there meaning he got clattered Mee went over, greenwood's fine just a bit shaken up, gestures he's OK to Mee... Ref waves the physio on... You can see Mee react, absolutely no need for it, they check his neck and head for 2 mins and it's utter bullshit, Mee knows what will happen before it even did 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The_Steve Posted December 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2021 Every club must be made to post COVID numbers. It's an utter joke that Newcastle get another game called off. No club should be able to use this to mask injuries. Good on Southampton for complaining. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, villalad21 said: Very interesting that Gerrard said he was very much in favor of 5 subs. I am as well. I'm aware it's a very unpopular opinion but I don't get it The generic response is " Teams which higher quality squads will benefit ". Yes, possibly, but so would the likes of us. Think of having multiple players on a yellow, needing more to make a breakthrough in a game, an additional injury etc. Many a time we have made all our subs and I wish we could bring on a couple more. We have alot of attacking players ourselves. Many a time we probably haven't made a sub earlier, when it was possibly needed, out of fear for using them up. Edited December 31, 2021 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichfield Dean Posted December 31, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted December 31, 2021 Afcon 2021: Watford's Emmanuel Dennis and Victor Osimhen out of Nigeria squad https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/africa/59837314 So Watford are seemingly refusing to let players go to Afcon (admittedly for a variety of reasons). Sounds a bit like they are using technicalities to get out of sending Dennis though, with him having been drafted late on in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: I am as well. I'm aware it's a very unpopular opinion but I don't get it The generic response is " Teams which higher quality squads will benefit ". Yes, possibly, but so would the likes of us. Think of having multiple players on a yellow, needing more to make a breakthrough in a game, an additional injury etc. Many a time we have made all our subs and I wish we could bring on a couple more. We have alot of attacking players ourselves. Yes to all of this but also with a thriving academy we can get them on the pitch more . It means that we can get Iroegbunam minutes. The same for Bidace. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, Lichfield Dean said: Afcon 2021: Watford's Emmanuel Dennis and Victor Osimhen out of Nigeria squad https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/africa/59837314 So Watford are seemingly refusing to let players go to Afcon (admittedly for a variety of reasons). Sounds a bit like they are using technicalities to get out of sending Dennis though, with him having been drafted late on in the process. What a joke. The disregard for the tournament would never happen with other events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, MWARLEY2 said: Yes to all of this but also with a thriving academy we can get them on the pitch more . It means that we can get Iroegbunam minutes. The same for Bidace. Gerrard intimated what you've just said, when talking about it as well mate. It makes sense. Edited December 31, 2021 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 5 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: I am as well. I'm aware it's a very unpopular opinion but I don't get it The generic response is " Teams which higher quality squads will benefit ". Yes, possibly, but so would the likes of us. Think of having multiple players on a yellow, needing more to make a breakthrough in a game, an additional injury etc. Many a time we have made all our subs and I wish we could bring on a couple more. We have alot of attacking players ourselves. Many a time we probably haven't made a sub earlier, when it was possibly needed, out of fear for using them up. I don’t like it and not because of Villa but because in theory those with the stronger squads can benefit whereas the weaker squads won’t have the level of replacements. This can be very advantageous later in games when fresh quality legs can make a significant difference and thus giving unfair competitive advantage more so than the current system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Just now, The_Steve said: What a joke. The disregard for the tournament would never happen with other events. There are less Asian players in the PL than African players, does anyone know if this happens during Asian tournaments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 1 minute ago, nick76 said: I don’t like it and not because of Villa but because in theory those with the stronger squads can benefit whereas the weaker squads won’t have the level of replacements. This can be very advantageous later in games when fresh quality legs can make a significant difference and thus giving unfair competitive advantage more so than the current system. Yep. This is why Smith preferred 3 subs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: I am as well. I'm aware it's a very unpopular opinion but I don't get it The generic response is " Teams which higher quality squads will benefit ". Yes, possibly, but so would the likes of us. Think of having multiple players on a yellow, needing more to make a breakthrough in a game, an additional injury etc. Many a time we have made all our subs and I wish we could bring on a couple more. We have alot of attacking players ourselves. You’re probably right. The big expensive squad argument has merit but squads like Man City are more or less swapping like for like there is no down grade only tactical changes. As a good and improving mid table squad, 5 subs possibly gives us overall a bigger advantage over the lower half clubs than it does a disadvantage over the top 6 teams. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 7 minutes ago, nick76 said: I don’t like it and not because of Villa but because in theory those with the stronger squads can benefit whereas the weaker squads won’t have the level of replacements. This can be very advantageous later in games when fresh quality legs can make a significant difference and thus giving unfair competitive advantage more so than the current system. It is tilted, as it always is, towards the money teams. However surely the aim is for us to have a deep quality squad and therefore it would be to our advantage too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 23 minutes ago, DaveAV1 said: It is tilted, as it always is, towards the money teams. However surely the aim is for us to have a deep quality squad and therefore it would be to our advantage too. Oh agree with that in part, I think it’s just another change that continues to chip away at the competitiveness of the league and in the end that hurts us as more and more changes continue to happen year on year, decade on decade that always helps the top teams, sometimes helps the mid teams and doesn’t help the weaker teams. This might help us, likely to help the bigger teams more but unlikely to help weaker teams whereas the next change may only help the bigger teams. Add them all up, bigger teams wins hands down and stretch the gulf, mid teams a bit better on some, a bit worse on others and weaker teams are worse off…can’t be good for the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 43 minutes ago, The_Steve said: What a joke. The disregard for the tournament would never happen with other events. It's a tournament in the middle of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) 20 hours ago, The_Steve said: What a joke. The disregard for the tournament would never happen with other events. 19 hours ago, rodders0223 said: It's a tournament in the middle of the season thats the point, anyone saying "people disrespect the AFCON" is missing the point big time, its nothing to do with it being an "African" tournament, its when an internation tournament should or shouldnt take place thats the problem imo. the tournament is in the middle of the main club season, which to me is completely wrong, if the Euro's were in the middle of the season i would feel exactly the same about that, no international main tournament should be mid season, or even during a season, no footballer should miss club games for any main internation tournaments imo. The only way i think it would be remotely reasonable to have any type of main international tournament in the middle of a season, is if the main national leagues had a break (ie: winter break or similar), to accommodate the tournament and ensure no clubs lose their players for an internation tournament, but ideally, we really shouldnt be having any international tournaments mid season, of any type. Edited January 1, 2022 by MaVilla 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 57 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: It's a tournament in the middle of our season Fixed that for you And that's the problem with international football Its not even in the middle of all the European seasons let alone global 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 The problem with AFCON as well as the timing is the sheer amount of tournaments. Every 2 years and they moved it from even years to odd years just under a decade ago They've had tournaments in 2010, 2012, 2013, 2015, 2017 and 2019, plus the upcoming one. Euros is every 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 20 hours ago, The_Steve said: What a joke. The disregard for the tournament would never happen with other events. Apparently Nigeria didn't contact Watford before the deadline to request Dennis release. They also got a new manager who had a huge list of players he wanted and forgot to add Dennis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts