Villan_of_oz Posted July 8, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted July 8, 2017 4 minutes ago, theboyangel said: It's fine unless we deploy a dm as well as the back 5. could be way too negative. This. If we play 3 at the back then the midlfield should be hourihane, lansbury and mccormack or something of the like, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 (edited) Huge gamble by Bruce - he says terry has played 442 all his career and prefers it so then Bruce decides to go 532 ? Bizarre gamble in my opinion . The fact he still doesn't even know what system he wants to play 8 months on is concerning. Steve Bruce pondering this formation for Villa's promotion push http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-steve-bruce-pondering-13287334#ICID=ios_BMNewsApp_AppShare_Click_Other Edited July 8, 2017 by Eastie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 11 minutes ago, Eastie said: Huge gamble by Bruce - he says terry has played 442 all his career and prefers it so then Bruce decides to go 532 ? Bizarre gamble in my opinion . As Bruce said you would have to play Terry in the middle of two other centre backs. He certainly reads the game well enough to excel in that role. Paul McGrath played most of his career at Man Utd in a 4. He then came to us and straight away Taylor played him in a 3 alongside Mountfield and Nielsen. A few years later under Little he again played in a three alongside Ugo and Southgate. It is certainly worth having a look at him there in pre season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villanun Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 Didn't Terry say he wouldn't go to a premiership club because he doesn't want to play Chelsea? So he's already decided we won't get promoted. Terry out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 26 minutes ago, Eastie said: Huge gamble by Bruce - he says terry has played 442 all his career and prefers it so then Bruce decides to go 532 ? Bizarre gamble in my opinion . The fact he still doesn't even know what system he wants to play 8 months on is concerning. Steve Bruce pondering this formation for Villa's promotion push http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-steve-bruce-pondering-13287334#ICID=ios_BMNewsApp_AppShare_Click_Other Yeah I can see this. I don't mind trying a couple of things out in pre season but we should mainly be working on the way we are going to play come the start of the season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 He really doesn't have much of a clue, he's extremely basic tactically and when that doesn't work he becomes indecisive. At this level we need to press high, keep the ball and be aggressive, not sit deep, stand off and lump it forward. We have the players to play good and winning football at this level but Bruce is not able to set that up. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 Is strategy steve at it again. Just pick a formation and stick with it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mjmooney Posted July 8, 2017 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted July 8, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, nazvfc said: Has terry a history of racism? No. Is he a racist? No more than anyone else. He's not s member of EDL, BNP or any racist organisation. Ive had fans around me calling players black so and so's but that's in the heat of the moment! And doesn't make them a racist (as far as I know) From someone at the end of racism from all and sundry I know a racist by his persistent actions and a racist has persistent actions! Terry does not. He is no more a racist as I am an aryan right wing white supremacist. Spot on as usual, Naz. There is a huge difference between saying a word and holding a belief. As there is between holding a belief and committing a race hate crime. Look at the Fat Ron business. Any of the black guys who who played for him would (and in fact DID) testify that he was in no way racist. But he (and they) routinely used language in a jokey way that may have offended others who were not even involved. His mistake was not thinking about the difference between the training ground, the pub, and the TV studio. IMO, the Terry /Ferdinand thing should never have come to court - it was a waste of time and money that should be devoted to bringing to book REAL racists - the evil shits that go around doing acid attacks, burning mosques and murdering MPs. As Naz politely hints, black and Asian folks will all be well aware of how nasty racism can get, and focusing on a playground spat ("Please sir, he's calling me names!") between two primadonna footballers who ought to grow up and know better, simply demeans the issue. Edited July 8, 2017 by mjmooney 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 I don't think Terry is a racist, what he did was hardly at the Lee Bowyer end of things. I'd consider making Terry the club captain to be honest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 4 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: I don't think Terry is a racist, what he did was hardly at the Lee Bowyer end of things. I'd consider making Terry the club captain to be honest. I wouldn't consider it , I'd do it ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stockport_Villain Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 Terry from all the info we have is here for 12 months. If he comes in and takes the captaincy away from Chester how does that make Chester feel, and then 12 months down the line what message does that give to the squad about Chester as a captain moving forward. I think Chester should remain as captain and Terry should support as vice for this season. Then you still have a strong captain moving forward without him being undermined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Villanun said: Didn't Terry say he wouldn't go to a premiership club because he doesn't want to play Chelsea? So he's already decided we won't get promoted. Terry out. Thats why it's a 1 year contract. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, Stockport_Villain said: Terry from all the info we have is here for 12 months. If he comes in and takes the captaincy away from Chester how does that make Chester feel, and then 12 months down the line what message does that give to the squad about Chester as a captain moving forward. I think Chester should remain as captain and Terry should support as vice for this season. Then you still have a strong captain moving forward without him being undermined. It's a fair point, but I don't think Chester would be too upset to hand it over to someone like John Terry, not same as having to give it to someone less 'deserving' (e.g. Lansbury). We all know how Terry conducts himself on the pitch, he's a big influence, will be barking orders, talking a lot to the officials about decisions and generally trying to organise things. If we accept that this is one of Terry's biggest strengths (leadership), it might equally be difficult if he is doing this whilst the actual 'captain' is on the pitch. We don't want him to lose this because he would have to somewhat defer to Chester, Also on the pitch other players will be more likely to listen to Terry than Chester, which will undermine Chester's position. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted July 8, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted July 8, 2017 I don't think Chester could sit there and honestly feel within himself that he could continue to be captain when playing along side someone of the stature of John Terry. He should act like a captain and volunteer to hand over the captaincy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 (edited) 39 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Thats why it's a 1 year contract. :/ One year option after that apparently - they said they'd discuss things after the season but both would need to agree - JT did say he may feel differently in a year . also nothing stopping him playing but asking not to play against Chelsea although he'd get a great reception back there. Edited July 8, 2017 by Eastie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nazvfc Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 1 hour ago, AshVilla said: Is strategy steve at it again. Just pick a formation and stick with it. So play the same rigid formation but not change it for the circumstances? i thought the sign of a good manager and good players (and we do have them) is to be able to play different formations?. lets become predictable and all the teams know we only play one way in one formation. I would hope he does change formation when the need arises. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 1 hour ago, AshVilla said: Is strategy steve at it again. Just pick a formation and stick with it. But now is the time to have a look at different formations not during the season. Its good to change things up as it will keep the players on their toes and not make training boring. If we stick with 532 is another matter but it won't hurt giving it a run during inconsequential training matches. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 5-3-2 out failed every time we have used it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 (edited) Its basically 1-10 isn't it? Its dynamic,not static..... during the course of the game and depending on how the game is going the formation shifts anyway. I am not dismissing formation,far from it, but I think too much emphasis is put on it. Edited July 8, 2017 by TRO 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 Does anyone else sort of forget we signed Terry and then come on here, see his player thread and find it a bit mental!? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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