Vive_La_Villa Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 On 08/11/2017 at 11:07, TRO said: Martin O'Neil had his detractors too. He was very iffy in the transfer market Arrogant in his defence of his principles. played smash a grab football in the main....secured good away results at the expense of home results. Not to everyones liking at all but did acheive 6-6-6 which is very commendable, but it could be boring at times. It is most unlikely we will ever get a manager who everyone favours.....unless and oligarch or sheik takes over and ignores FFP. MON is one of the best man managers out there. He can make an average player a world beater. But when it comes to tactics or transfer activity he was severely limited. Which is why he could only take a team so far in club football and is more suited for International management. Keeping things on topic he would be the perfect manager for us at this present time with the players we have and would probably win the league. However we are stuck with Bruce who is capable of getting us promoted. It's just going to be a struggle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted November 10, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted November 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Vive_La_Villa said: MON is one of the best man managers out there. Well let us apply some Bruce logic here - MON finished 6th repeatedly, with a huge budget. Would not want him back here, even in place of Bruce. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 17 minutes ago, Jareth said: Well let us apply some Bruce logic here - MON finished 6th repeatedly, with a huge budget. Would not want him back here, even in place of Bruce. I would only want him back to get us out this league. He would achieve that easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vreitti Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 2 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: However we are stuck with Bruce who is capable of getting us promoted. It's just going to be a struggle. It really shouldn't be. This league is not that good, and we have by far the best squad. We are way too lenient, because he supposedly inherited such a mess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 49 minutes ago, vreitti said: It really shouldn't be. This league is not that good, and we have by far the best squad. We are way too lenient, because he supposedly inherited such a mess. I disagree. I think the league is very hard. I also don't believe a squad that has one only senior left back and 3 backup centre halves that have probably played about 10'games between them in the past year can be seen as having by far the best squad in the league. Not a defence of Bruce as he has to take shared blame for this current squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 I highly doubt mon would come back here anyway so this converstaion is irrelevent. If bruce was to go. (Which isnt going to happen unless we hit some terrible form) we should look at rowett, wilder. Wagner and Hughton would be my choices but there is zero chance of that happening while we are here. Anyways i cant see bruce leaving until the summer if we dont go up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 It is irrelevant but I'd take him back in a heartbeat. Amazing to think back to the negativity there was about him when he was providing us our only spell of consistently successful football in the past 20 years. Little did we know... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: I highly doubt mon would come back here anyway so this converstaion is irrelevent. If bruce was to go. (Which isnt going to happen unless we hit some terrible form) we should look at rowett, wilder. Wagner and Hughton would be my choices but there is zero chance of that happening while we are here. Anyways i cant see bruce leaving until the summer if we dont go up. Bruce is here until the summer no matter what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 8 minutes ago, AntrimBlack said: Bruce is here until the summer no matter what happens. No way. Go on a really bad run falling way behind the the playoff places and he is a goner! Unless they can't afford to sack him off course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 9 minutes ago, AntrimBlack said: Bruce is here until the summer no matter what happens. Agreed. I have no doubt what so ever that Bruce will see this season out with us. For better or worse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 26 minutes ago, AntrimBlack said: Bruce is here until the summer no matter what happens. Probably right. I think the only thing that would save bruce is if we lost in a play off final just. Xia and Wyness would probably stick with him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 3 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Probably right. I think the only thing that would save bruce is if we lost in a play off final just. Xia and Wyness would probably stick with him Get outa here. No promotion this year and Bruce is finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 15 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Get outa here. No promotion this year and Bruce is finished. We talk end of season if this happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted November 10, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted November 10, 2017 4 hours ago, sne said: Agreed. I have no doubt what so ever that Bruce will see this season out with us. For better or worse. A horror show end of november going in to december could mean a new manager and some £'s chucked at him to fix it in Jan. Would be desperate measures in desperate times but still, hard to see any other option. We missed the boat on Wagner and Nuno big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 7 hours ago, vreitti said: It really shouldn't be. This league is not that good, and we have by far the best squad. We are way too lenient, because he supposedly inherited such a mess. moot point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 9 minutes ago, romavillan said: A horror show end of november going in to december could mean a new manager and some £'s chucked at him to fix it in Jan. Would be desperate measures in desperate times but still, hard to see any other option. We missed the boat on Wagner and Nuno big time. what about Chris Wilder or Lee Johnson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 7 minutes ago, romavillan said: A horror show end of november going in to december could mean a new manager and some £'s chucked at him to fix it in Jan. Would be desperate measures in desperate times but still, hard to see any other option. We missed the boat on Wagner and Nuno big time. Have I missed something massive here? In what sense did we "miss the boat on Wagner"? Did he apply for the job? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted November 10, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted November 10, 2017 5 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Probably right. I think the only thing that would save bruce is if we lost in a play off final just. Xia and Wyness would probably stick with him We should sack him if we win a playoff final Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 1 hour ago, fightoffyour said: We should sack him if we win a playoff final 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave J Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 11 hours ago, Jareth said: Well let us apply some Bruce logic here - MON finished 6th repeatedly, with a huge budget. Would not want him back here, even in place of Bruce. I’m not a MON fan - but what? I personallly would have him over Bruce in the blink of an eye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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