sheepyvillian Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 42 minutes ago, TRO said: You need to get around. Seeing as we're going all Dickensian, what you having , Gin ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 (edited) Why the hell have we only got 1 left back? Thats pretty shambolic planning for the season. So much for things changing at the club. Bruce has even more to answer for if he doesn't get the left back choice right for the next 3 games. This could make or break our season. Very poor by the club. In fact is there any other club in the League that has gone in to a season with only one natural player in a particular position. How has this happened? Edited October 11, 2017 by Vive_La_Villa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 10 hours ago, TRO said: We know exactly what we have to do......win every game, the rest is cosmetic.....leave the detail to those that get paid handsomely for it and trust in them until there is a time not to Oh I fully agree that these decisions are not easy and that we know a relatively minuscule amount of what really goes on in the board room. I wasn’t intending to be really critical of the board and only time will tell if their judgements are sound or otherwise. We have been a very badly run club, if we were run at all, in the last few years of the Lerner era and now we appear to be in much better hands. The basics are there, we will see if a little magic dust can be sprinkled over the mighty club to take us above the average and on to glory. Dr T does seem to be very ambitious, we will see who can hang on to his coat tails soon enough. UTV. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 1 hour ago, TRO said: I can appreciate what your saying, but spare a thought for us that appreciate the work that Steve Bruce has perceivedly done, but we could find ourselves disagreeing on certain points....such is our effort for reasonable debate. From the fans that are against him.......The bit that i find so hard to come to terms with is ....I am yet to hear or read a single praiseworthy comment about the bloke.....that is almost impossible to reconcile. Even if someone was so anti......surely they could find something that would play in to the hands of logic to say, i am not a fan/ supporter but .....i think he did this well. thats the part that questions their argument. its just totally intransigent. Steve Bruce plays a negative style of football, but he has got a nice car. You want balance, I give you balance. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsmithusa Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 3 hours ago, TRO said: I can appreciate what your saying, but spare a thought for us that appreciate the work that Steve Bruce has perceivedly done, but we could find ourselves disagreeing on certain points....such is our effort for reasonable debate. From the fans that are against him.......The bit that i find so hard to come to terms with is ....I am yet to hear or read a single praiseworthy comment about the bloke.....that is almost impossible to reconcile. Even if someone was so anti......surely they could find something that would play in to the hands of logic to say, i am not a fan/ supporter but .....i think he did this well. thats the part that questions their argument. its just totally intransigent. I suppose it's unrealistic to expect you to have read all my posts, but I have credited him for sticking with Johnstone. I have also said I am delighted with the recent results. You must be talking about some other intransigent. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 4 hours ago, TRO said: From the fans that are against him.......The bit that i find so hard to come to terms with is ....I am yet to hear or read a single praiseworthy comment about the bloke.....that is almost impossible to reconcile. It's hard to keep up with everything in a long thread (I find it impossible), but this isn't true. I've read comments praising his signings - I think generally his signings have been good value yet I'm unimpressed by the football on offer when you consider the resources available to him. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 5 hours ago, 8pints said: Yout Bruce skin dem teef Had no clue he was a Ginger at Heart.lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted October 12, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted October 12, 2017 (edited) I think some of the Bruce 'lovers' are becoming bigger zealots than some the Bruce 'haters' use to be. Not all but some are cracking on at people who don't like Bruce with stuff that just isn't true. My opinion, I know I know. But it's why I'm in the Bruce 'I have no clue anymore' camp Can't we just agree that everyone has some valid points, lol heck no..... Edited October 12, 2017 by Villan_of_oz 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 17 hours ago, Dave J said: Stable club - with that owner - Paul Trollope sacked after 12 games so why was there a need to bring in Warnock ? It's really not like comparing apples to pears it's Warnocks appraisal v Bruce's appraisal over the past 12 months and nothing more really imo I disagree, wholeheartedly. If you don't think Villa was one of if not the toughest jobs out there then you've had your head in the sand for the past 5+ years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn1982 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 Most fans that dislike Bruce based it on his record here, his style and where we finished last year and the start we had this season. Those that back him do it in the hope he's the right man. That's something we all do. We all want Villa to be successful. The last month has been more positive but it's still short of what we need. The old adage of you can only beat what's in front if you cuts both ways. We've not beaten anyone of note yet and now have a run of games against sides who will be there or there abouts and our local rivals. It's a much tougher month than last month. If we do well Bruce will have killed off most of his doubters but until we are beating good teams regularly the jury is still out on him. Wolves is massive as after the last break we luckily didn't get spanked by Brentford who are 19th! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 Its complicated. I was a Bruce fan based on his previous record of promoting Championship clubs. I moved to the 'Bruce out' camp during that horrible period earlier this season. I still don't think he's been good enough, and i won't be on board with Bruce as our manager until we are in the top 2 (as thats the minimum i expect). I'm sitting on the fence as to whether Bruce is good or bad. I think we will get promoted this season (when i'm wearing my optimistic hat). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 2 hours ago, bannedfromHandV said: I disagree, wholeheartedly. If you don't think Villa was one of if not the toughest jobs out there then you've had your head in the sand for the past 5+ years. And i bet nearly every championship manager would have jumped at the chance to take it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 17 hours ago, TRO said: I can appreciate what your saying, but spare a thought for us that appreciate the work that Steve Bruce has perceivedly done, but we could find ourselves disagreeing on certain points....such is our effort for reasonable debate. From the fans that are against him.......The bit that i find so hard to come to terms with is ....I am yet to hear or read a single praiseworthy comment about the bloke.....that is almost impossible to reconcile. Even if someone was so anti......surely they could find something that would play in to the hands of logic to say, i am not a fan/ supporter but .....i think he did this well. thats the part that questions their argument. its just totally intransigent. He's got very small hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 If ever FIFA want to review the problems created by international breaks, this thread should be exhibit A. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TRO Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 19 hours ago, AJ said: The balance is there. But as you alluded to, the positives tend to fall by the wayside while the negatives get all the focus. I openly admit that I have also raised negatives about Steve Bruce, but I want to see how he does after October. He seems to be doing alright for awhile, the he goes to crap again, and there is some credibility in some of the negative comments about him. The guy is a bloody yoyo, and he does my head in sometimes. But yes, we need to balance the positives with the negatives. Even with the most unpopular players, there are positives there for even Micah and Gabby. I think he gets decisions wrong at times, but which managers don't. I think you are right......The guys have every right to raise the neggies, but a few pozzies now and again don't go amiss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 15 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Had no clue he was a Ginger at Heart.lol *Ginsters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 19 hours ago, sheepyvillian said: Seeing as we're going all Dickensian, what you having , Gin ? yeah...Hydro Gin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 17 hours ago, srsmithusa said: I suppose it's unrealistic to expect you to have read all my posts, but I have credited him for sticking with Johnstone. I have also said I am delighted with the recent results. You must be talking about some other intransigent. fair play....then i am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 18 hours ago, DaveAV1 said: Steve Bruce plays a negative style of football, but he has got a nice car. You want balance, I give you balance. what?.....4 wheels. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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