KentVillan Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 Think a lot of Arsenal fans are going to get a big reality check this season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Xela said: Ramsdale. LOL. If only they could find a keeper from within Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 1 hour ago, KentVillan said: Think a lot of Arsenal fans are going to get a big reality check this season. I think thats the problem for Arsenal fans, the reality check hasnt set in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 I though they were brassic? How can they be finding this money? Even if it is a mil a year for 100 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czarnikjak Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 49 minutes ago, VillaJ100 said: I though they were brassic? How can they be finding this money? Even if it is a mil a year for 100 years A lot of myths is circulating around Arsenal and their debt, spread by people who don't fully understand the situation. Not all debt is a bad debt. Most of arsenal's debt is long term and low interested. It's perfectly serviceable given their revenue. Let me give you an example, most people in this country have mortgage that exceeds 5 times their yearly income and they are perfectly capable of paying it back and still spend on other things. Arsenal's debt is about 2-3 times theirs yearly revenue. Interest payments according to last published statements are only around £20mil. This is small in comparison to revenue of £350 mil. They are able to service it without a problem. Their cash position at the end of the season was about £100 mil cash in the bank, that will be reinforced by now by resumption of season ticket sales again. They were hit hard by covid, but the worst is behind them now with the stadium opening again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post villa4europe Posted July 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, KentVillan said: Think a lot of Arsenal fans are going to get a big reality check this season. What is the reality? I expect them to be slightly better than last season and finish around about the same, maybe a place higher Not seen mnay arsenal fans claiming much different, most think worse The reality check will be villa fans claiming were now a bigger club and we have to finish above them, judging Smith if he doesn't rather than using reality and context of the season Edited July 17, 2021 by villa4europe 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilS Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 8 minutes ago, villa4europe said: What is the reality? I expect them to be slightly better than last season and finish around about the same, maybe a place higher Not seen mnay arsenal fans claiming much different, most think worse The reality check will be villa fans claiming were now a bigger club and we have to finish above them, judging Smith if he doesn't rather than using reality and context of the season I think I read somewhere a month or so back that Arsenal were right up near the top two of the form chart for the second half of the season, which is why they finished higher than us after a very poor start to the season. Assuming they can maintain/pick up that form again, I sadly think Arsenal will be up in the top 6 more this season. We are going to need to improve again to challenge up there with them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 A lot of stories about Arsenal's debt must be incorrect as they are paying Brighton upfront for White. They will be a major rival against us finishing top six this season. Of course I do also hope they struggle and get relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czarnikjak Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: A lot of stories about Arsenal's debt must be incorrect as they are paying Brighton upfront for White. They will be a major rival against us finishing top six this season. Of course I do also hope they struggle and get relegated. Can you link the source where it says they paying whole White fee upfront? I would be surprised if this is the case, nothing unique to arsenal, but vast majority of transfers nowadays have payments scheduled in tranches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 It was mentioned on the radio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 Wasn't Ben White all in Brighton's kit launch? Shows why you can never put much stock in that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 25 minutes ago, Keyblade said: Wasn't Ben White all in Brighton's kit launch? Shows why you can never put much stock in that. It's a seriously daft idea. Clubs market their kits with popular players, and sometimes clubs sell their popular players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 3 hours ago, villa4europe said: What is the reality? I expect them to be slightly better than last season and finish around about the same, maybe a place higher Not seen mnay arsenal fans claiming much different, most think worse The reality check will be villa fans claiming were now a bigger club and we have to finish above them, judging Smith if he doesn't rather than using reality and context of the season The reality is that they can’t attract the calibre of players they think are available to them. They think players like Grealish would even consider moving to them for longer than a nanosecond. I think they’ll do ok next season, but it’s managed decline at the moment, and they are consistently buying high and selling low in the transfer market. You’re right that a lot of Villa fans have unrealistic expectations, but we’ve all experienced failure and uncertainty recently, and know how quickly it can happen. Arsenal fans seem to think they have a god given right to perform at a certain level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, KentVillan said: The reality is that they can’t attract the calibre of players they think are available to them. They think players like Grealish would even consider moving to them for longer than a nanosecond. I think they’ll do ok next season, but it’s managed decline at the moment, and they are consistently buying high and selling low in the transfer market. You’re right that a lot of Villa fans have unrealistic expectations, but we’ve all experienced failure and uncertainty recently, and know how quickly it can happen. Arsenal fans seem to think they have a god given right to perform at a certain level. They lost that right when they hounded out the one guy who made their entitlement even possible. They'd be no different to us or Everton or Spurs without Wenger. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 £50m for White looks like an awful lot of money. 1 season in the top flight, £50m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 5 hours ago, NeilS said: I think I read somewhere a month or so back that Arsenal were right up near the top two of the form chart for the second half of the season, which is why they finished higher than us after a very poor start to the season. Assuming they can maintain/pick up that form again, I sadly think Arsenal will be up in the top 6 more this season. We are going to need to improve again to challenge up there with them. That's where I am too, if arsenals better players actually remember why they are paid £200k+ a week then they have a decent team Their problem is they don't more often than not, they're a team that perform shitly rather than being a bunch of shit players £43m and £180k a week lacazette... They're desperate for a Ollie Watkins, even if only 1 or 2 of them started playing like him they'd be a far better team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 23 hours ago, KentVillan said: Think a lot of Arsenal fans are going to get a big reality check this season. And by reality check you mean what exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 i mean, White might be great......but 50m?, yikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 2 hours ago, villalad21 said: And by reality check you mean what exactly? Answered already in the thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 5 hours ago, Genie said: £50m for White looks like an awful lot of money. 1 season in the top flight, £50m Not even a special season either 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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