Popular Post Lichfield Dean Posted July 26, 2023 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2023 (edited) I thought Garage argued until he was blue in the face that businesses were allowed to choose whichever customers they wanted based in their beliefs and politics? Like, you know, not serving cakes to gay people. I guess it's just not ok when it's him that they don't want as a customer. Edited July 26, 2023 by Lichfield Dean Lol, genuine typo there, but I think I'll leave it 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bannedfromHandV Posted July 26, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2023 I wish people would stop giving the cretin air time, it’s all he wants, validation. Odious scumbag. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 20 minutes ago, Genie said: He didn’t meet their commercial requirements so they should have cut him off on that basis. All the other stuff is irrelevant and unprofessional on their part to put labels on him. Konstantin Kisin was in the news a couple of months ago about being Debanked. So the debanking for political reasons is a wider thing than Coutts and Farage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: I wish people would stop giving the cretin air time, it’s all he wants, validation. Odious scumbag. That's nearly the worst part. Giving this piece of shit a platform again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Even when they 'win' they can't help lying She didn't resign because of him losing his account, she breached confidentiality. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 22 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Even when they 'win' they can't help lying She didn't resign because of him losing his account, she breached confidentiality. and they didn’t withdraw his account due to his political views either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Genie said: and they didn’t withdraw his account due to his political views either. They kinda did though as was revealed on the dossier he got. The video at 3:54 in live feed summaries it https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/business-66296935 Edited July 26, 2023 by CVByrne 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 8 minutes ago, CVByrne said: They kinda did though as was revealed on the dossier he got. The video at 3:54 in live feed summaries it https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/business-66296935 Is this the same dossier that on page 10 told him that it was because he had fallen below the mimum requirement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chindie Posted July 26, 2023 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2023 One of the stupidest stories in recent times. No surprise when it's Farage, the Tories and Tufton puppet masters involved. You can't deny someone a bank account. But Farage isn't being denied a bank account. A very niche bank, which essentially has joining requirements, decided he didn't meet their requirements, both from a strict meeting the bar to apply (i.e. wealth level), and from the 'type' of client he was (what he represents, where he's getting money from - Russia, etc) so they binned him. He's perfectly at liberty to go into his local banking branch of any other bank and I'm sure they'll be happy to have him. Farage doesn't have a right to a mega super special person bank account, and that bank isn't obliged to give him that account anymore than they're obliged to give me, a scruffy Brummie with **** all to his name an account. This is just another **** culture war bollocks grift, and the only wrong doing is the head of the bank being stupid enough to disclose confidential client information that's got them the sack. Meanwhile the word removed pipers are telling us all that means what they want it to mean, when it doesn't. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Just now, Seat68 said: Is this the same dossier that on page 10 told him that it was because he had fallen below the mimum requirement? The dossier that also stated Quote continuing to have Mr Farage as a customer was not consistent with Coutts's "position as an inclusive organisation" given his "publicly stated views". Pretty clear from that his publicly stated views were part of the reason for his account closure and that's why it's in the same dossier. It also explains why they never gave him a reason at first for his account closure. If it was specifically because of the financial requirement they would have just stated that as the reason when they closed the account. The exact same thing happened with Konstantin Kisin 2 months ago where Tide shut their account and wouldn't give any reason for it and then when they made a public issue over it they said they would review etc. Tide have no minimum requirement. Seems a lot of people saying this has happened to them. I don't care one jot about Nigel Farage **** him. I do find it a bit worrying that these account closures seems to be more widespread than just Farage though. So it'll be interesting about how many others have had same situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted July 26, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 26, 2023 It's also a damning indictment of the state of journalism in this country that they're giving this story all the time it wants and nobody is sat there and saying to Farage or any of these words removed 'But that's not true is it?'. They just nod along and wheel in the next empty suit to shake their head and tut and give some noncommittal bullshit about it all being very concerning yes of course. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 31 minutes ago, Genie said: and they didn’t withdraw his account due to his political views either. oh come on .. it was EXACTLY why they withdrew it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted July 26, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Chindie said: It's also a damning indictment of the state of journalism in this country that they're giving this story all the time it wants and nobody is sat there and saying to Farage or any of these words removed 'But that's not true is it?'. They just nod along and wheel in the next empty suit to shake their head and tut and give some noncommittal bullshit about it all being very concerning yes of course. Quite correct. The 'banking problem' that Farage is describing does not exist. We have a media problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 I had a look through the dossier, and to be fair, I wouldnt do business with him either, for clarity they also state that he fell below the minimum requirement, but they also list reasons why you wouldnt want to have him as a customer. Fair play to Coutts. But you know, stick up for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted July 26, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 26, 2023 I'm not really up to speed on this if I'm honest, but superficially I don't get the problem. Maybe someone can enlighten me. If they refuse to bank with him as a private company, what's the big whoop? We don't have a right to obtaining services from a private company, they can choose to provide services to whoever they want, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 7 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: oh come on .. it was EXACTLY why they withdrew it I think if he had still met their requirements (I.e. had loads of cash, investments and the mortgage hasn’t just been paid off) then they couldn’t have just kicked him out. I bet they have plenty of other undesirables in their business still. He didn’t meet their requirements any longer, and that’s a fact. They made the mistake of writing down a load of other (true) stuff that he was bad for their brand because he’s a racist, lying grifter etc which they should never have done. The whole thing was managed ridiculously and the woman at the top paid the price. They should have just sent him a letter thanking him for his business over the years but going forwards he no longer met the requirements of the bank and he’d need to find a new account provider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 26, 2023 Moderator Share Posted July 26, 2023 8 minutes ago, HKP90 said: I'm not really up to speed on this if I'm honest, but superficially I don't get the problem. Maybe someone can enlighten me. If they refuse to bank with him as a private company, what's the big whoop? We don't have a right to obtaining services from a private company, they can choose to provide services to whoever they want, no? Absolutely nothing, there is a right to basic banking facilities, there is no right to private banking Ironic really considering Farage was all for bakers not baking cakes for gay people Also, there are lots of conservative commentators and politicians who are not making good faith statements and distorting the facts of the matter to meet their agenda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted July 26, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 26, 2023 7 minutes ago, HKP90 said: I'm not really up to speed on this if I'm honest, but superficially I don't get the problem. Maybe someone can enlighten me. If they refuse to bank with him as a private company, what's the big whoop? We don't have a right to obtaining services from a private company, they can choose to provide services to whoever they want, no? You have a right to a basic bank account, and a bank can't discriminate against a client along the usual lines (sex, race, religion etc) in refusing or closing a basic account. Farage however didn't have a basic account. He had the super special account with the bank 'brand' you've never heard of called Coutts, which has special requirements like levels of wealth to even have an account there, which gets him super special services etc. And he's also a politically exposed person, which means the bank has greater requirements to keep an eye on what goes on with his account. Banks aren't required to offer these special services to anyone, and can make whatever decisions they feel necessary for their business in offering them (within reason - had they binned off a rich and 100% upstanding person because they were gay, they'd have questions to answer). Coutts decided that Farage didn't meet their requirements, and he also represented a danger to their reputation because of who he is, what he does, and questions over who is paying him. So they binned him. It's possible that NatWest itself, who own Coutts, could have made the same decision if he had a basic account with them, but less likely. But having his super special rich man account, they can do what they feel is right. So they binned him. Farage then hugged himself tight, got on the phone to his favourite editors, and started moaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted July 26, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, bickster said: Absolutely nothing, there is a right to basic banking facilities, there is no right to private banking Ironic really considering Farage was all for bakers not baking cakes for gay people Also, there are lots of conservative commentators and politicians who are not making good faith statements and distorting the facts of the matter to meet their agenda Well I for one would not offer Farage my Urine Extinguishing services if he was thermally challenged. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Seat68 said: I had a look through the dossier, and to be fair, I wouldnt do business with him either, for clarity they also state that he fell below the minimum requirement, but they also list reasons why you wouldnt want to have him as a customer. Fair play to Coutts. But you know, stick up for him. Nobody is sticking up for him. We're just concerned if this is a more common issue that Farage (**** him). That banks are closing accounts because internal panels decide they don't agree with their political views. Views that are legal and get people elected to government. Edited July 26, 2023 by CVByrne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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