Chindie Posted July 26, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 26, 2023 You don't have a right to a business account, or a YouTube channel, or a media platform of any sort. People aren't being shut out from basic needs. Nobody cares if Severn Trent is hooked up to some bastards house, bastards need water too, but YouTube doesn't need to give anyone time on their servers, NatWest doesn't have to give gilded services to bastards, Virgin doesn't have to allow a bastard to use their infrastructure to spout whatever rubbish they want to, and any business selling goods doesn't have to sell you anything if they don't want your money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 It’s all playing out a bit too well in Farages favour. I really want this claim about 10 banks turning him down to be investigated. My suspicion is that either: 1) It’s completely made up or 2) He made ludicrous demands for his new account purely so his application would be rejected and he could play the victim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 26, 2023 Moderator Share Posted July 26, 2023 26 minutes ago, CVByrne said: You can't have reputational damage for providing services every person and company are entitled to without prejudice like banking, telecommunications, electricity, water, computers, furniture etc. It's ridiculous, if it was allowed then the companies of people would just be targeted, law firm of this guy, youtube channel of that guy. It's like you are willfully not getting it. Further discussion is pointless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 12 minutes ago, bickster said: It's like you are willfully not getting it. Further discussion is pointless I think you just ran out of answers when my point was made. Targeting a persons company account for closure because you don't agree with persons political views is a worrying thing if it happens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 26, 2023 Moderator Share Posted July 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, CVByrne said: I think you just ran out of answers when my point was made. Targeting a persons company account for closure because you don't agree with persons political views is a worrying thing if it happens. You haven't made a point,Your argument's fundamental premise is utterly wrong as pointed out by everybody arguing against you. YOU. DO. NOT. HAVE. A. RIGHT. TO BUSINESS. BANKING. NOR. PRIVATE. BANKING And you keep coming back to it, it's like punching a wall hoping it'll change its mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted July 26, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 26, 2023 You Don't Have A Right To Have A Business Account, Or Any Non-Basic Service, From A Bank. Like Any Other Business, They Can Choose Whether They Want Your Money. And If You Are Likely To Be A Problem For Them That Outweighs Your Worth To Them, They Will Follow The Money And Bin You. Here Endeth The Lesson. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Seat68 Posted July 26, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2023 First they came for Tommy Robinson's paypal, and I did not speak out for he was a racist grifter, having donations from the smooth brained. Then they came for Nigel Farage and I did not speak out as he also was a racist grifter, having donations from the smooth brained Then they came for me as I had moved my account to Halifax as the nearest TSB was in Telford and that's too far away. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 The owner of GB News has made millions by betting against NatWest stock, after his channel spends days and days on negative coverage. hmm. I wonder how much coverage this will get Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted July 26, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: The owner of GB News has made millions by betting against NatWest stock, after his channel spends days and days on negative coverage. hmm. I wonder how much coverage this will get None because it's not woke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 Laurence Fox suspended from GB News for being a word removed beyond even their standards it seems. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted September 27, 2023 Moderator Share Posted September 27, 2023 Fox being "cancelled" by GB News is just hilarious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 Someone else getting cancelled because they know the REAL agenda. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 And of course he disputes it, and doubles down. Finally some crazy on crazy action. Also Dan Wootton apologizing not only for what was said but also his reaction (he was laughing along) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustibrooks Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 I’m surprised he’s not threatening GB News with his imaginary lawyers he threatens people with 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 This is art 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted September 27, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted September 27, 2023 On The News Agents this week they interviewed Gordon Smart (former editor of the Scottish Sun) It was about Russel Brand maybe, but he basically implied, without stating it, that Dan Wooton was an absolute wrong 'un. Said he wasnt' surprised at all about the allegations against him and he'd seen some things that made him very uncomfortable I know it's very unsurprising news, but still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: On The News Agents this week they interviewed Gordon Smart (former editor of the Scottish Sun) It was about Russel Brand maybe, but he basically implied, without stating it, that Dan Wooton was an absolute wrong 'un. Said he wasnt' surprised at all about the allegations against him and he'd seen some things that made him very uncomfortable I know it's very unsurprising news, but still Gordon Smart former editor of The Suns bizarre page and awarder to Brand of Shagger of the year being uncomfortable with the bed of snakes he asked to have brought to his room. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Segundo Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 On 26/07/2023 at 16:14, bickster said: You haven't made a point,Your argument's fundamental premise is utterly wrong as pointed out by everybody arguing against you. YOU. DO. NOT. HAVE. A. RIGHT. TO BUSINESS. BANKING. NOR. PRIVATE. BANKING And you keep coming back to it, it's like punching a wall hoping it'll change its mind. It's not so much about having a right to those things per se, it's about the right not to be discriminated against because of your ideology. In this case, political ideology has been invoked. What if the Bank had decided they won't provide services to a prominent Muslims because they disagree with Islamic ideology. Or a prominent Jew because they don't agree with Zionist Ideology. Or a prominent Trans person because they don't agree with Gender Ideology? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted September 27, 2023 Moderator Share Posted September 27, 2023 15 minutes ago, El Segundo said: It's not so much about having a right to those things per se, it's about the right not to be discriminated against because of your ideology. In this case, political ideology has been invoked. What if the Bank had decided they won't provide services to a prominent Muslims because they disagree with Islamic ideology. Or a prominent Jew because they don't agree with Zionist Ideology. Or a prominent Trans person because they don't agree with Gender Ideology? Your political opinions are not a protected characteristic, nor can they be as some political opinions are illegal Equating say race or religion with politics is a false premise If I owned a pub, known Nazis wouldn't be allowed to drink in it. That is perfectly legal and allowable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted September 27, 2023 Moderator Share Posted September 27, 2023 9 minutes ago, El Segundo said: it's about the right not to be discriminated against because of your ideology There is no right not to be discriminated against because of your ideology. A private business, providing a luxury banking service to wealthy customers has the right not to provide such services to people whose "ideology" would damage their (the bank's) reputation. Vladimir Putin has an ideology around rebuilding the former Soviet empire, but no one would blink at him being turned down. Discrimination on religious grounds, or on ethnicity or gender is not "ideology" and there are laws in place covering discrimination around those aspects. That said, the bank is probably home to quite a number of dubious customers, and ultimately Farage wasn't (unlike them) lucrative as a customer, so the reputational damage outweighed, in their view, any profit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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