One For The Road Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 This guy needs to improve. Rather disappointed tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted December 8, 2016 Moderator Share Posted December 8, 2016 49 minutes ago, TRO said: If I had the opportunity of earning their salaries, I would make it my business to be physically prepared for the challenge. Yes of course. The only one who didn't do that was Gabby. I don't think anyone could accuse Elphic of not training properly etc. i.e. yes you can "blame" someone for not trying their best to be as good as they can be, but you can't blame them when they have done that, but are beaten by a faster/stronger/taller opponent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 I've noticed a trend with players who come to Villa. The ones who start off well tend to trail off and often the ones that don't start well at all end up improving massively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, blandy said: Yes of course. The only one who didn't do that was Gabby. I don't think anyone could accuse Elphic of not training properly etc. i.e. yes you can "blame" someone for not trying their best to be as good as they can be, but you can't blame them when they have done that, but are beaten by a faster/stronger/taller opponent I think we have our wires crossed here Pete. Once they are out on the Park, yes you are right, all you get is there best effort and thats all we can ask.............but if that best effort is not producing results and those results for argument sake is getting shoved off the ball regularly. You do your club training and with the permission of the club work additionally on your upper body strength to be in a better shape for dealing with the threat of being bullied off the ball. Its like "home work" you do that bit more to help yourself. If you take Westwood as an example.....He looks the same as when he first come 4/5 years ago, so I can only assume, he must be happy to be beaten in the one on one's as much as he is? Edited December 8, 2016 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 32 minutes ago, Mantis said: I've noticed a trend with players who come to Villa. The ones who start off well tend to trail off and often the ones that don't start well at all end up improving massively. That can well be the case and can be influenced by the performance of the team as a whole. In many previous seasons we have had disjointed teams that lack blend, so players coming in can be difficult to appraise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 we used to be the graveyard for managers Now we're the graveyard for players too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 6 hours ago, Mantis said: I've noticed a trend with players who come to Villa. The ones who start off well tend to trail off and often the ones that don't start well at all end up improving massively. Then leaving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 18 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Then leaving That's the case for most clubs these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 19 hours ago, Grasshopper said: we used to be the graveyard for managers Now we're the graveyard for players too Don't tell that to Bacuna, the poor lad still believes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limvillian Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 This guy needs replacing ASAP. been caught out a couple of times already in the first half. an accident waiting to happen every time he plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keener window-cleaner Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Performs like you would expect a £3m defender from Bournmouth to perform. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Has concrete slabs for feet I seen him get outpaced along the line by Howson who isn't even 100% fit yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keener window-cleaner Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 1 hour ago, limvillian said: This guy needs replacing ASAP. been caught out a couple of times already in the first half. an accident waiting to happen every time he plays. I would say he and Gabby was at fault for the goal today, he just backed off and let Oliveira take a shot at goal. Not sure if he has some niggling injury or if he really is that slow. At the moment I would prefer Baker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted December 13, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted December 13, 2016 Terrible player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Such a disappointment. Just a crap defender, could do with a new one in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khizzy Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 I know he Elphick was captain before he got injured but why take the armband away from Chester when we were doing well with him as captain? When Baker comes back from injury, Elphick needs to be dropped. We don't need a defender who can't defend any more. I reckon Baker's head would have gobbled up the ball today when Oliveira took his shot for the goal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Looks as though he is running in treacle at times even up against forwards not known for their pace. I had really high hopes when we signed him but he has been a huge disappointment so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Can we recall Okore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 We should have signed Michael instead of Tommy he was probably quicker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Hopefully we kept the receipt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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