Jareth Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 1 minute ago, supermon said: Apparently dude in blue is Samuelson as per twitter, The doc is in background in a villa shirt, pic was doing the rounds on twitter Bloody love Dr Tony for wearing the shirt. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted May 20, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted May 20, 2016 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Barney_avfc said: You may have already seen this. It's a photo take at the Newcastle game. Taken of a corporate box with Dr x, Wyness and Samuelson. The first 2 seem to look like the aforementioned, but I'm not sure about Chris Samuelson. What do you think? Best boyband album cover ever. Edited May 20, 2016 by alreadyexists 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 5 minutes ago, supermon said: Apparently dude in blue is Samuelson as per twitter, The doc is in background in a villa shirt, pic was doing the rounds on twitter Hadn't seen that to be fair. Although it's pretty grainy and hard to tell who that is, not convinced it's Samuelson as photos I've seen of him his head looks more square than that, but it could be him, so I'd still rather wait until it's confirmed that he's involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 2 hours ago, Stevo985 said: Because this is VillaTalk and everything has to be terrible all the time. And with that, it's been pretty accurate for 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avfc96 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Godders said: So @Avfc96 and @Dr_Pangloss, what is Samuelson trying to do here exactly? That's exactly what im trying to work out. His main business seems to be working for a Swiss based finance company. However, he has had two ventures into football. First was with Everton in 2004, when he had planned to purchase a 29.9% stake from Bill Kenwright and was even introduced to fans an ATM only to pull out of the deal at the last available moment. Second was with Reading in 2012, when he introduced Anton Zigeravech to Reading who then brought 51% off the club from John Madejski. In 2014, Reading borrowed against future parachute payments from a company called Vibrac Corporations. Vibrac Corporation reportedly then attempted to force chairman John Madejski to sell to a consortium called Phoenix, which included Samuelson. Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vibrac_Corporation http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/financier-behind-ill-fated-everton-fc-3356079 http://www.getreading.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/chris-samuelson-former-reading-fc-11355076 Edited May 20, 2016 by Avfc96 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 7 minutes ago, Barney_avfc said: You may have already seen this. It's a photo take at the Newcastle game. Taken of a corporate box with Dr x, Wyness and Samuelson. The first 2 seem to look like the aforementioned, but I'm not sure about Chris Samuelson. What do you think? Clearly not Samuelson from what i heard he wears tanned chino's and not beige 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 I was just about to post that picture. Jamieson Hodgson posted that picture and another one on Twitter, though the other picture is just them all (plus Hollis) inside the room behind them. It does look a bit like Samuelson to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted May 20, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted May 20, 2016 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Barney_avfc said: You may have already seen this. It's a photo take at the Newcastle game. Taken of a corporate box with Dr x, Wyness and Samuelson. The first 2 seem to look like the aforementioned, but I'm not sure about Chris Samuelson. What do you think? Is that Samuelson, bottom right, dressed all in claret and lurking like a shadow? Edited May 20, 2016 by alreadyexists 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 11 minutes ago, alreadyexists said: If he isn't a fit and/or proper person then I imagine he would fail the fit and proper persons test, however if he is fit and proper then I imagine he'll pass it. That's the point of these tests isn't it? To weed out the wrong'uns? Have you seen the amount of mentalists that have taken over English league clubs the past decade? *Not that I am saying that is the case here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 1 minute ago, Rob182 said: I was just about to post that picture. Jamieson Hodgson posted that picture and another one on Twitter, though the other picture is just them all (plus Hollis) inside the room behind them. It does look a bit like Samuelson to me. If you google image Samuelson you'll see it is most likely him, old, huge slaphead. The papers saying it too nails it - he is involved. Y'all make your own assumptions to what his purpose is, I just can't see what wrongdoing could be going on having scrutinised everything Samuelson has been accused of in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted May 20, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted May 20, 2016 (edited) 3 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: Have you seen the amount of mentalists that have taken over English league clubs the past decade? *Not that I am saying that is the case here. That is true. But mental-ness aside, I thought people seemed to be worried about his finances/backing/motives, isn't that the sort of thing the test would catch out? Edited May 20, 2016 by alreadyexists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney_avfc Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Here's dodgy Chris, could be him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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alreadyexists Posted May 20, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted May 20, 2016 1 minute ago, pete101 said: That's not him; fingers are too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 4 minutes ago, Barney_avfc said: Here's dodgy Chris, could be him. What a wierd shaped head It's almost perfectly round 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godders Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 18 minutes ago, Avfc96 said: That's exactly what im trying to work out. His main business seems to be working for a Swiss based finance company. However, he has had two ventures into football. First was with Everton in 2004, when he had planned to purchase a 29.9% stake from Bill Kenwright and was even introduced to fans an ATM only to pull out of the deal at the last available moment. Second was with Reading in 2012, when he introduced Anton Zigeravech to Reading who then brought 51% off the club from John Madejski. In 2014, Reading borrowed against future parachute payments from a company called Vibrac Corporations. Vibrac Corporation reportedly then attempted to force chairman John Madejski to sell to a consortium called Phoenix, which included Samuelson. Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vibrac_Corporation http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/financier-behind-ill-fated-everton-fc-3356079 http://www.getreading.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/chris-samuelson-former-reading-fc-11355076 So I've googled this, and I see nothing wrong, so please tell me what I'm missing... Samuelson and the Russian chap join the Reading board bringing money with them (much needed to fund the Jan 2014 window from what I can see). They leave, shortly before (?) Vibrac gives a cash advance against a future parachute payment. Reading can't afford to repay the Vibrac loan. Madjeski effectively hands control of the club to Vibrac. Samuelson approaches Vibrac with Pheonix to buy the club but doesn't. Football league investigates Vibrac due to becoming de facto owner of Reading without going through fit and proper persons test. Nothing there sets my alarm bells ringing. To me, it looks like Reading were in trouble before Samuelson came along, took a loan and couldn't repay. Samuelson chanced his arm at owning the club on the cheap. Doesn't make him a criminal. Anyway, probably wrong topic to discuss on the Dr Xia thread, so apologies mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermon Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 (edited) All Reading fans are warning us about the Samuelson guy, seems they suffered at the hands of this dude, I think he left them in financial ruin. I'd take their word over the article as they probably have had to endure this every day much like how we endured Lerner, MON, Tim Sherwood during their darker times at Villa Edited May 20, 2016 by supermon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilbertoAVFC Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 https://next.ft.com/content/9969d8b0-1e63-11e6-b286-cddde55ca122 Aston Villa’s Chinese buyer does not ‘control 5 companies’ Tony Xia’s firm also disputes claim it helped to build Beijing’s Bird’s Nest stadium Can't help but think no real due diligence has been done here, it's just Lerner chucking the keys at whoever will give him some money. I truly hope I'm wrong, but the fact Hollis has literally said things that aren't true (through his own fault or otherwise) already doesn't fill me with confidence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swollef Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 1 hour ago, Barney_avfc said: You may have already seen this. It's a photo take at the Newcastle game. Taken of a corporate box with Dr x, Wyness and Samuelson. The first 2 seem to look like the aforementioned, but I'm not sure about Chris Samuelson. What do you think? I think the guy in the suit holding the phone is Deisler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 The guy standing up in the blue shirt does look like Chris samuelson. Probably is him considering we know a samuelson is involved. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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