jon_c Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 38 minutes ago, hippo said: Gary Monk from what I hear has a lot of admirers on the villa board. From what I"ve heard of Gary Monk he had even bigger issues between his management staff and the players than Garde had here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuneatonVilla Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 For me the right man would be Pearson, got experience of managing in the championship of course, leading Leicester City out of there with over 100 points. Think he's the right man to settle things down round. Just hope the board don't do something stupid like wait till end of the season, wouldn't be fair on the supporters to wait that long to find out their next man. Also other clubs may look at Pearson till then. Another name that springs to me if we fail to get Pearson would be Di Canio again he'd be lot different to Pearson but he certainly gets reactions from players and has a strict approach which this club needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 1 hour ago, jon_c said: Seen Pat Murphy saying the board want an English manager. I've no problem with the manager being English or any other nationality. But if that is a prerequisite it is just plain stupid. Nationality has NO bearing on ability to do the job. And before anyone starts, you can have experience of the English game and even the Championship and not be English. You might as well say you only want a white manager, or you only want a manager who is taller than 6 foot. Edit: though I realise if they're not an EU citizen they'd probably get their work permit vetoed . I agree - it's ridiculous. Do the board think that if we get a good old fashioned English manager with PASHUN who plays 4-4-****-2 that suddenly everything will be ok? Clueless rocket polishers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 30, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted March 30, 2016 32 minutes ago, DCJonah said: And your claim people will want the new manager sacked after 5 games was what? A prediction. I wasn't aiming it at anyone in particular. Merely saying that the new manager will probably get the same bad results Garde and Sherwood have been getting and the fanbase will start to turn, when we all know the real problem isn't the manager. If you're implying my post was point scoring, who exactly was I scoring points against? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Little has said it will be British manager who knows the championship inside out. Of the names we've heard this can only mean Pearson or Dyche. One of these is out of work and not about to manage in the prem. It will be Pearson all day long. Given how long he has been linked I reckon they have already got him as they will be looking to get deals in place for players in May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 31 minutes ago, NuneatonVilla said: For me the right man would be Pearson, got experience of managing in the championship of course, leading Leicester City out of there with over 100 points. Think he's the right man to settle things down round. Just hope the board don't do something stupid like wait till end of the season, wouldn't be fair on the supporters to wait that long to find out their next man. Also other clubs may look at Pearson till then. Another name that springs to me if we fail to get Pearson would be Di Canio again he'd be lot different to Pearson but he certainly gets reactions from players and has a strict approach which this club needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: A prediction. I wasn't aiming it at anyone in particular. Merely saying that the new manager will probably get the same bad results Garde and Sherwood have been getting and the fanbase will start to turn, when we all know the real problem isn't the manager. If you're implying my post was point scoring, who exactly was I scoring points against? Why will they turn? Is it the same scenario as when Garde and Sherwood joined? And the only time I've seen fans want a manager sacked after just a few games was Sherwood for not playing Gil, hence my post. Unless there's been more occasions which would support your prediction. DOL, MON, Houllier, Mcleish, Lambert and Garde. I don't think any of them had groups wanting them sacked after 5/6 games. Seems a strange prediction based on the one scenario I pointed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 3 minutes ago, Jareth said: Little has said it will be British manager who knows the championship inside out. Of the names we've heard this can only mean Pearson or Dyche. One of these is out of work and not about to manage in the prem. It will be Pearson all day long. Given how long he has been linked I reckon they have already got him as they will be looking to get deals in place for players in May. Where has he said that? I think that's pretty smart. Our main concern is getting back up at the first try. We can look for who the next manager should be in the rebuilding process once we've achieved promotion and safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 30, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted March 30, 2016 Just now, DCJonah said: Why will they turn? Is it the same scenario as when Garde and Sherwood joined? And the only time I've seen fans want a manager sacked after just a few games was Sherwood for not playing Gil, hence my post. Unless there's been more occasions which would support your prediction. DOL, MON, Houllier, Mcleish, Lambert and Garde. I don't think any of them had groups wanting them sacked after 5/6 games. Seems a strange prediction based on the one scenario I pointed out. They'll turn just as a lot of fans have turned against Garde. The point wasn't 5 or 6 games (it's actually 7, I meant 5 or 6 losses out of those 7 games), that was just because that's how many games we have left until the end of the season. If we had 10 games left I'd have said 10 games. My point was people will see the bad results and poor record, and probably want a new manager to take on the summer re-build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaCas Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 31 minutes ago, NuneatonVilla said: Another name that springs to me if we fail to get Pearson would be Di Canio again he'd be lot different to Pearson but he certainly gets reactions from players and has a strict approach which this club needs. Haha. I'm sure he's top of the short list - perhaps as caretaker manager until Adam Johnson is able to take over as player-manager when we're in the Vanarama League 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 3 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Where has he said that? I think that's pretty smart. Our main concern is getting back up at the first try. We can look for who the next manager should be in the rebuilding process once we've achieved promotion and safety. Said it to Pat Murphy who then broadcast it. Murphy usually deals in facts, so it really now feels like it will be Pearson given that criteria and how long he has been linked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 8 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: They'll turn just as a lot of fans have turned against Garde. The point wasn't 5 or 6 games (it's actually 7, I meant 5 or 6 losses out of those 7 games), that was just because that's how many games we have left until the end of the season. If we had 10 games left I'd have said 10 games. My point was people will see the bad results and poor record, and probably want a new manager to take on the summer re-build. So your point is that in a number of games, if the results are poor fans will probably want a new manager? That's hardly a shock. If we're being more specific to the number of games of this season and the scenario we are in, I think only those with a pre determined dislike of whoever we appoint will show some displeasure in these last few games. Most reasonable fans will not completely turn after 7 games. Like I said, the only time it's happened since I can remember was because Sherwood didn't play Gil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Pearson would be a mistake on many levels Imo. the media would continually goad him until they get another ostrich quote he'd either side with gabby, Richards et al and the lazy culture (but a happy dressing room) would continue.... or he'd ball them out, we'd fail to ship them out and we'll end up with a lazy squad undermining yet another manager. Pearson has courted controversy with every management position he's held. He's flavour of the month bizarrely because the team hr barely kept in the prem is now top of the league without him... How does that work? Pearson wouldn't have his preferred backroom staff or scouting network either as they're still at the club whose fortunes dramatically changed once he left. a big no from me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Not sure if anyone has listened to the Pat Murphy interview but he has also said that Little is the one doing due dilligence on all the candidates, and has already done so, and will be the person talking to the candidates initially. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03pfsf1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 30, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted March 30, 2016 1 minute ago, DCJonah said: So your point is that in a number of games, if the results are poor fans will probably want a new manager? That's hardly a shock. Yes. But the reason for the poor results won't be the manager's fault (on the whole). That was the point I was making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 I think Moyes indicating he is interested maybe a game changer though. Sure little may have said that just assuming Moyes was out of reach. The whole thing seems to have snowballed since Moyes reported interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 If it is Pearson, I'm done. Until he is gone, at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 1 minute ago, hippo said: I think Moyes indicating he is interested maybe a game changer though. Sure little may have said that just assuming Moyes was out of reach. The whole thing seems to have snowballed since Moyes reported interest. Murphy also said that Moyes wants talks - and I think he inferred that if it was Little doing the talks then it could happen, compared to last year when Moyes was left unimpressed by the club. Maybe all this quick restructuring is to attract Moyes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 12 hours ago, av1 said: You see I'm of the exact opposite opinion. Any new manager will need time to assess the quality and attitude of the squad, what better time than now? We need to hit the ground running in a August, bringing in a new guy in the close season would surely halt that? That's my opinion aswell av1, get someone in now and or in the next two weeks, the likelyhood is relegation will be confirmed in less than two weeks anyway so will be 4-5 dead games. I think it's a good debate in itself when do we appoint the next manager, imminently or wait until May/June. For me there is no time to waste, we know we're down, the other relegation teams don't and won't for another two months so we have more time to rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 (edited) 59 minutes ago, NuneatonVilla said: Di Canio again he'd be lot different to Pearson but he certainly gets reactions from players and has a strict approach which this club needs. Edited March 30, 2016 by StefanAVFC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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