Genie Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 8 minutes ago, desensitized43 said: What's stopping her is the fact it'll tear the Tories in half. They work for us don't they? I don't disagree with your point, but it shouldn't matter if its for the good of the nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 21, 2019 Moderator Share Posted March 21, 2019 9 minutes ago, desensitized43 said: What's stopping her is the fact it'll tear the Tories in half. and that in all likelihood, the will of the people will be the former won't of the people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desensitized43 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Genie said: They work for us don't they? I don't disagree with your point, but it shouldn't matter if its for the good of the nation. Well that depends on your priorities doesn't it really? If it were me in that position it would be... 1. The country (not 'Will of the people') 2. Me - yep, I'm very important to me 3. Party I suspect the PM puts herself as 1, Party 2 and Country a distant 3rd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 34 minutes ago, desensitized43 said: Well that depends on your priorities doesn't it really? If it were me in that position it would be... 1. The country (not 'Will of the people') 2. Me - yep, I'm very important to me 3. Party I suspect the PM puts herself as 1, Party 2 and Country a distant 3rd. I'd have said party above herself. All her efforts seem designed to minimise the split in tory ranks, and she is going through enormous stress and humiliation in doing what she's doing. Most people wouldn't still be trundling on. It's a strength of sorts, and also a greater weakness. No doubt she, like others, defines the best interests of the country as the path she has chosen, so it's difficult to rank that one, though most objective assessments would say that the country is suffering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 56 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: kind of ironic that Sturgeon has almost the complete opposite whereby "will of the people" was to stay and her parliament are wanting a new independence referendum every fortnight thus frustrating the will of the people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 minute ago, tonyh29 said: kind of ironic that Sturgeon has almost the complete opposite whereby "will of the people" was to stay and her parliament are wanting a new independence referendum every fortnight thus frustrating the will of the people I know you're not being sincere, but the big selling point of staying in the UK, was EU membership. They will lose that membership, even though they voted to remain, so as Bercow would say 'circumstances have changed'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted March 21, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted March 21, 2019 The chamber is basically empty and it's a shit show. Next week will be hell. And Leadsom can get in the **** sea. May's Igor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 What an absolute shambles. Must have been said a thousand times already but that room resembles a school play ground more and more each day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Genie Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 I emailed my MP (Christopher Pincher) a while back, think I mentioned it. Can't remember if I posted the reply. Basically he is a leaver but has been voting to agree to May's deal as he wants the issue sorted ASAP (recognises the disruption caused). He also went on about Land Rover specifically as he is an owner of a Discovery and that he was annoyed about the production of that model being moved into Europe (didn't mention the XE & F-Pace models that have gone into Solihull). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desensitized43 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Genie said: I emailed my MP (Christopher Pincher) a while back, think I mentioned it. Can't remember if I posted the reply. Basically he is a leaver but has been voting to agree to May's deal as he wants the issue sorted ASAP (recognises the disruption caused). He also went on about Land Rover specifically as he is an owner of a Discovery and that he was annoyed about the production of that model being moved into Europe (didn't mention the XE & F-Pace models that have gone into Solihull). I've emailed mine (James Morris) as it's fairly quick and easy. He won't listen though as he's considered one of the "rising stars" of the tory party. Looking at his voting record he basically does whatever he's told. Pointless. On a side note, he really really looks like a certain dictator from the 30's and 40's you might have heard of... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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peterms Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 17 minutes ago, desensitized43 said: I've emailed mine (James Morris) as it's fairly quick and easy. He won't listen though as he's considered one of the "rising stars" of the tory party. Looking at his voting record he basically does whatever he's told. Pointless. On a side note, he really really looks like a certain dictator from the 30's and 40's you might have heard of... I hope you asked him to do something about the recent chaos with train timetables. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Hardly reassuring tweet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 That petition should reach a million within the next hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: That petition should reach a million within the next hour. If the news pick it up then it'll increase even faster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 It's already got the top spot. Revoke Article 50 and remain in the EU. 960,324 signatures Ban all ISIS members from returning to UK 582,949 signatures Leave the EU without a deal in March 2019. 372,591 signatures Ban the sale of fireworks to the public. Displays for licenced venues only. 301,457 signatures Put pressure on Libya to take action to stop enslavement of Black Africans. 269,159 signatures, now closed Stop the privatisation of NHS services 238,766 signatures, now closed If England win the world cup, the Monday should be made a bank holiday for 2018 237,399 signatures, now closed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 how many people get that worked up about fireworks ffs Sorry trivial compared to the brexit shitshow, but that's a weirdly large petition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Just now, Rodders said: how many people get that worked up about fireworks ffs Sorry trivial compared to the brexit shitshow, but that's a weirdly large petition It should put into some perspective, for people in this thread, that getting a million people to sign a petition at no cost and no effort to themselves is not nothing, but also not particularly important either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 I'm gonna say it'll clear 2m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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