Rodders Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 true, though the comforting reminder that lots of other people do exist out there that find this so depressing, and that our mini echo chambers aren't as isolated as we may wonder is always a little re-assuring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted March 21, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted March 21, 2019 Everyone looking forward to the petition being swiped away with a single line? It's something I guess, and I signed it (one of a pathetically small number in my constituency), but it isn't going to do anything. And neither will the march this weekend. The government doesn't give a ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 21 minutes ago, Genie said: I'm gonna say it'll clear 2m It cleared 4m last time, and was ignored. This time will be no different. Utter waste of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Risso said: It cleared 4m last time, and was ignored. This time will be no different. Utter waste of time. Was it the same kind of petition? From what I can tell this is about to double the second biggest petition on the site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 No I didn't sit there refreshing it. Okay, I actually did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 BBC have the story that the website crashed so I expect it'll kick on even more now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 When reading comment feeds 95%* of rabid Brexiter comments come from people named Roger, Peter, Keith or Nigel. *This figure may not be completely accurate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desensitized43 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: When reading comment feeds 95%* of rabid Russian bot comments come from people named Igor, Alexei , Anatoly or Vladimir. *This figure may not be completely accurate Fixed for you 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 hour ago, HanoiVillan said: Hardly reassuring tweet: Sam Coates was saying similar things earlier on the Andrew Neil show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 56 minutes ago, Chindie said: Everyone looking forward to the petition being swiped away with a single line? It's something I guess, and I signed it (one of a pathetically small number in my constituency), but it isn't going to do anything. And neither will the march this weekend. The government doesn't give a ****. So what’s the answer? Revolution? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 15 minutes ago, desensitized43 said: Fixed for you Not everyone who disagrees with you is a bot made by a foreign government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Vive_La_Villa said: So what’s the answer? Revolution? Urgh, it's tricky. Part of me wants no deal so the idiots who voted for it can really suffer, but it'll screw me living in the EU. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 21, 2019 Moderator Share Posted March 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Not everyone who disagrees with you is a bot made by a foreign government. Извините не могли бы вы говорить помедленнее, пожалуйста Izvinite ne mogli by vy govorit' pomedlenneye, pozhaluysta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Urgh, it's tricky. Part of me wants no deal so the idiots who voted for it can really suffer, but it'll screw me living in the EU. I was one of those idiots and whatever happens I still believe in the long run it will work out for the best for the country. But I accept it was a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desensitized43 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Not everyone who disagrees with you is a bot made by a foreign government. I didn't say they were. It was a joke. Trying to lighten the conversation at a very serious situation but let's not pretend there isn't a foreign government operating a very sophisticated campaign to influence us. Just because it's inconvenient to you doesn't mean it isn't happening. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I was one of those idiots and whatever happens I still believe in the long run it will work out for the best for the country. But I accept it was a mistake. You think No Deal is what's best for the country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: You think No Deal is what's best for the country? No of course not. I’m talking years in the future. Next generations. Here and now we are better off staying. Eventually the debt crisis in Europe will rear it’s ugly head again. Edited March 21, 2019 by Vive_La_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 11 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Urgh, it's tricky. Part of me wants no deal so the idiots who voted for it can really suffer, but it'll screw me living in the EU. It's not so much the 'idiots' that voted for it, it's the idiots that adamantly stick by it whilst ignoring all reason. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted March 21, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted March 21, 2019 19 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: So what’s the answer? Revolution? There isn't one. We have a minority government that is barely operating and has running through it like a stick of rock a cynical authoritarian streak. Pandora's box was opened with the referendum, on a subject that cuts through party lines like a knife, and can't be mostly closed without someone with the ability to close it losing. The people with that ability will not risk anything as it potentially risks their career, or their party, or both. We are impotent at this stage. The petition and the march can show discontent, but the government will just ignore it. And they will. The only thing that can be done is to ensure at the next election a lot of politicians are put out on their ear. Across the House. And perhaps make sure a few names and faces take a hit in the shape of criminal prosecution. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrusr Posted March 21, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Chindie said: There isn't one. We have a minority government that is barely operating and has running through it like a stick of rock a cynical authoritarian streak. Pandora's box was opened with the referendum, on a subject that cuts through party lines like a knife, and can't be mostly closed without someone with the ability to close it losing. The people with that ability will not risk anything as it potentially risks their career, or their party, or both. We are impotent at this stage. The petition and the march can show discontent, but the government will just ignore it. And they will. The only thing that can be done is to ensure at the next election a lot of politicians are put out on their ear. Across the House. And perhaps make sure a few names and faces take a hit in the shape of criminal prosecution. This is the real issue, May is acting like she has a huge majority, yet cannot even get half of her party to agree with her. Every politician is "acting in the best interests" and can use some argument to justify it, however benign. This will continue "ad nauseam" and in all honesty I am fed up. The deadlock will not be broken and something has to give. That is why it is so frustrating. On all logic, the deadlock can only realistically be broken if it is returned to "the people" to decide, in some form, be it another referendum or general election (more likely). The problem with that is May and the Tories are refusing to do so in the vain hope that they can get it resolved. Labour aren't exactly jumping up and in any event will probably still pursue Brexit in any event if Corbyn gets his way. Quite frankly though, it is the only method I can see that will bury the issue once and for all either way. It is just a farce, and if there is another vote/general election I can't decide whether it will be the lowest turnout due to apathy or the highest because every is that angry with it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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