The now-enacted will of (some of) the people

[chrisp65]

4 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said:

Regardless of how he got there, I think it's good news.

If he got there because he's realised he needs to take little steps to align with his party and that there will need to be a bit of give and take, then good.

If he got there because the Remain vote is becoming overwhelming and he's hoping it's a populist move that'll get him voted in, then good.

If he got there just to piss off Theresa May and some of the idiots I work with, then, well that's good too.

Good.

 

I'll agree with all that when he's actually genuinely tried to do it, and not pulled some small print dick move.

Theresa May needs to be stopped, she's well up the list of bad PM's.

[villa4europe]

2 hours ago, chrisp65 said:

Theresa May needs to be stopped, she's well up the list of bad PM's.

but she wont be because there is no suitable opposition, from within labour or the tories

its a proper pick your poison, can imagine the next GE will be met with a mixture of rage and apathy, low voter turnout and a winner with no real power in parliament 

[HanoiVillan]

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Obviously this comes from the Scum's political editor, so usual caveats apply. 

[StefanAVFC]

Yes he's from the Scum but Tom N-D is a decent sort.

[ml1dch]

2 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said:

Yes he's from the Scum but Tom N-D is a decent sort.

I tend to find that a paper's editorial position has little to do with how accurate or balanced an individual journalist is.

Case in point, editorially The Telegraph is an incoherent mash-up of Breitbart, Pravda and The Beano, but their Europe editor Peter Foster is probably the best journalist on Brexit matters out there. 

[Xann]

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A British exit from the EU without a deal would have “an immediate and drastic” impact on availability of medicines and vaccines as well as affecting health system funding and staffing, experts warned on Monday.

Although a no-deal Brexit was the worst scenario, even a negotiated divorce from the European Union would also damage the National Health Service (NHS), the experts said in a review published in The Lancet journal.

Britain is scheduled to leave the bloc on March 29th, and Prime Minister Theresa May has yet to secure parliament’s backing for her negotiated EU withdrawal agreement.

The Lancet review, led by three UK health policy specialists, found that even under this deal or potential variations of it before the deadline, Brexit’s health impact would be only slightly less harmful than in a no-deal scenario.

“Some people will dismiss our analysis as ‘Project Fear’. But with just over a month to go to Brexit ... it just isn’t good enough to keep saying that ‘something will work out’ without any details of exactly how,” said Martin McKee, a professor at London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine who co-led the review.

The analysis used available legal and political texts on four Brexit scenarios to assess likely impact on the state-funded NHS, a much-cherished though increasingly strained pillar of Britain’s welfare services.

It found that one major problem from Brexit under all scenarios would be staff recruitment and retention - in part because few provisions have been made for immigration of health workers to the UK or for long-term recognition of professional qualifications.

It also said that “under a no-deal Brexit, the absence of a legal framework for imports and exports is expected to have an immediate and drastic effect on supply chains” for medicines, vaccines, medical devices and equipment.

Despite government assurances, the analysis said, shortages would be likely because stockpiling cannot cover more than a few weeks and some products - such as radioisotopes used in medical imaging for diagnosis - cannot be stockpiled.

The British government has asked UK drugmakers to build an additional six weeks’ worth of stockpiles to prepare for any no-deal Brexit, a target the industry has said will be challenging.

The review said that as one of the largest areas of public spending, any negative impact on the economy - however short-term - would put extra pressure on health service financing.

 

Reuters

Right wing profiteers wet dream this Brexit.

[ml1dch]

On 31/12/2018 at 22:42, ml1dch said:

...Other way, sure. Check everything right down to the wooden pallets and the driver's sandwiches. I just don't see what's causing the queues with goods going this way.

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The UK government is due to hold emergency talks with industry leaders today after discovering that the country doesn't have the right pallets to continue exporting goods to the European Union if it crashes out without a deal next month.

Pallets are wooden or plastic structures which companies use to transport large volumes of goods. Under strict European Union rules, pallets arriving from non-member countries must be heat-treated or cleaned to prevent contamination, and marked to confirm they meet a series of EU rules.

Most pallets currently used by British exporters do not conform to these rules meaning that British export business could potentially grind to a halt next month in the event of a no-deal Brexit.

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/brexit-michael-gove-ministers-to-hold-emergency-meeting-over-no-deal-chaos-2019-2?r=US&IR=T

[LondonLax]

A part of me would love to see a no deal brexit, just to get the popcorn out and watch the chaos unfold. 

[snowychap]

What kind of gullible clearing in the woods would you have to be to believe in any 'commitment' from this Prime Minister?

[snowychap]

That's if they get the opportunity to vote.

Everyone is talking as though this is set in stone.

[bickster]

18 minutes ago, snowychap said:

That's if they get the opportunity to vote.

Everyone is talking as though this is set in stone.

There's also what if the EU say no to the short extension as they've already hinted they will (21 months or nothing) and no doubt have already informed May of this. It's yet more duplicitous nonsense

 

[blandy]

36 minutes ago, snowychap said:

What kind of gullible clearing in the woods would you have to be to believe in any 'commitment' from this Prime Minister?

A tory

[blandy]

1 minute ago, bickster said:

There's also what if the EU say no to the short extension as they've already hinted they will (21 months or nothing) and no doubt have already informed May of this. It's yet more duplicitous nonsense

 

Aye. She's just trying to stop resignations from Gov't and stop Cooper's vote tomorrow from going through. She's utterly useless and utterly shameful.

[Genie]

45 minutes ago, LondonLax said:

A part of me would love to see a no deal brexit, just to get the popcorn out and watch the chaos unfold. 

If I was a millionaire I think I’d be with you on that.

[Amsterdam_Neil_D]

54 minutes ago, snowychap said:

What kind of gullible clearing in the woods would you have to be to believe in any 'commitment' from this Prime Minister?

Depends,  did she say "Clear" at any point ? If she did,  she's telling porkies.

[mjmooney]

Finally (and probably too late) Labour come up with a sensible suggestion: second referendum, with the two choices being 'remain' or 'May's deal'. No deal being very sensibly ruled out as insane. You'd think that all MPs bar the handful of swivel-eyed loons would back this. Wouldn't you? 

[Xann]

45 minutes ago, mjmooney said:

You'd think that all MPs bar the handful of swivel-eyed loons would back this. Wouldn't you? 

Nah.

The ones that object to the NHS (but dare not speak it aloud) and the type that have moved their money out of harms way, ready to pounce on vulnerable targets in the post Brexit fallout won't like it.

Filth like Rees Mogg and Redwood.

[NurembergVillan]

1 hour ago, mjmooney said:

Finally (and probably too late) Labour come up with a sensible suggestion: second referendum, with the two choices being 'remain' or 'May's deal'. No deal being very sensibly ruled out as insane. You'd think that all MPs bar the handful of swivel-eyed loons would back this. Wouldn't you? 

But only if May's deal gets passed in the HoC, which it won't, so it's kind of a pointless statement.

Unless I've got something wrong.  Hard to keep up with the relentless flow of bullshit from Westminster.

[NurembergVillan]

21 minutes ago, Xann said:

Nah.

The ones that object to the NHS (but dare not speak it aloud) and the type that have moved their money out of harms way, ready to pounce on vulnerable targets in the post Brexit fallout won't like it.

Filth like Rees Mogg and Redwood.

"I presume you're aware of what became of the previous babysitter?"

[ml1dch]

23 minutes ago, NurembergVillan said:

But only if May's deal gets passed in the HoC, which it won't, so it's kind of a pointless statement.

Unless I've got something wrong.  Hard to keep up with the relentless flow of bullshit from Westminster.

No, you have it correct. The problem at the moment is nothing can get a majority. So their plan is to keep doing nothing but if the withdrawal agreement suddenly does somehow get a majority then it should be put to a referendum. 

So it's still pointless at the moment, but it's one small step further along the line towards being er...pointful. If such a word exists.

They're now, finally in for a penny. Next, the pound.

Edited February 26, 2019 by ml1dch