Chindie Posted March 6, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted March 6, 2019 Current thinking seems to be an extension will happen, but only a short one, and at the end of that May's favoured option of her deal or no deal will be up for a final vote, and in that scenario she'll get what she wanted months ago - a parliament caught between the cliff edge and a bad safety net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 47 minutes ago, mjmooney said: So, hey, let's not be able to sell them anything. Let's not be able to buy anything off them. What possible problem could there be, eh? Leaving without a deal doesn't prevent trade (it may prevent some things for a while - like organic sales, for example). It makes it more difficult/more expensive. 49 minutes ago, mjmooney said: I cannot fathom why anybody in their right mind (I suppose there's a clue there) would actually WANT No Deal? I can see why some people would want it even if it's no deal in the actual sense of the phrase. It allows for the possibility of the wet dream of huge deregulation and a free for all. Some people get very, very excited about that kind of thing (see Raab and his merry band of Brittania Unchained co-authors, for example). I can certainly see why some of the anti-EU veterans might prefer it to the deal that May has brought back. But, yes, it wasn't what most of the leave campaign(er)s were all about. It was (from an economic view) about leaving, securing a deal on our terms and sunlit, unicorn-rich uplands being just over the horizon. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 6, 2019 Moderator Share Posted March 6, 2019 23 minutes ago, Chindie said: Current thinking seems to be an extension will happen, but only a short one, and at the end of that May's favoured option of her deal or no deal will be up for a final vote, and in that scenario she'll get what she wanted months ago - a parliament caught between the cliff edge and a bad safety net. Whose current thinking? It's not the EU's as far as I've read, they appear to be saying, you want an extension, have a 21 month one or nothing The couple of month's thing is an ERM concession Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, bickster said: The couple of month's thing is an ERM concession Is that a typo or have you renamed them the European 'Research' Muppets? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 6, 2019 Moderator Share Posted March 6, 2019 Just now, snowychap said: Is that a typo or have you renamed them the European 'Research' Muppets? It was a typo but the cap certainly fits 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted March 6, 2019 Author Moderator Share Posted March 6, 2019 7 minutes ago, bickster said: the cap certainly fits It does for the muppets part, but they research **** all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 6, 2019 Moderator Share Posted March 6, 2019 Just now, blandy said: It does for the muppets part, but they research **** all I believe they have fully researched belly button fluff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, romavillan said: **** business I need to know if I need to convert my drivers license or not, getting very last minute now. €180 **** euros too, and you have to renew every **** 10 years here. Thanks Brexiteers. Seriously though, that's just an illustration of one tiny thing, I've had to fork out for passports for my kids in case the now super racist UK decide that they might not be British enough for a passport,... ...really, I used to be proud of being from the UK for a whole bunch of reasons (NHS, multi-ethnic society that made some astounding art/music etc, trade union movement, invention, free schooling to PHD) and most of them have been pissed up the wall, this Brexit stuff is the last straw. Sorry to quote the whole thing but I’m gonna on mobile. I feel your pain mate. Not about the kids obviously (that’s ****) but the driving license especially. I’m looking to buy a car from new. I’m scared I won’t even be allowed to drive it! Absolute madness. I’m getting to the point where I don’t ever want to live in the UK again. And I always thought I’d end up coming back. Edited March 6, 2019 by blandy snipped 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chindie Posted March 6, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted March 6, 2019 19 minutes ago, bickster said: Whose current thinking? It's not the EU's as far as I've read, they appear to be saying, you want an extension, have a 21 month one or nothing The couple of month's thing is an ERM concession Ian Dunt, amongst a few others. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 6, 2019 Moderator Share Posted March 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, Chindie said: Ian Dunt, amongst a few others. I guess they might agree to it being over before the May elections if they could see an end to the nonsense in sight but you'd have to be extremely optimistic to see that in such a short timeframe. I like Ian Dunt but I think he's wrong on that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted March 6, 2019 Author Moderator Share Posted March 6, 2019 47 minutes ago, Chindie said: Current thinking seems to be an extension will happen, but only a short one, and at the end of that May's favoured option of her deal or no deal will be up for a final vote, and in that scenario she'll get what she wanted months ago - a parliament caught between the cliff edge and a bad safety net. I can see that happening, but I can also see that another possibility is when T.May has to ask them to extend, they can say "sure, 21 months, or no extension" Like I said, I think they hold all the cards. If that were to be what they say, then she's toast. (in my opinion) She won't and can't accept no deal, and it may even have been rules out by the UK by then, so then she has to go, her plan lost. So then everything changes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 more rewriting of history what people said used to matter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 6, 2019 Moderator Share Posted March 6, 2019 What an utter cockwomble, actively "campaigns" (read: tells St Jezza what to think) for the referendum to be respected and now claims to be walking on water to prevent Honda leaving? It's partly your fault you absolute weapon. What are you going to do to Honda, hold them hostage? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted March 6, 2019 Author Moderator Share Posted March 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, bickster said: What an utter cockwomble, actively "campaigns" (read: tells St Jezza what to think) for the referendum to be respected That melon has never seemed to have much respect for democracy. Utter bell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 The bloke is an absolute dick. Blatantly voted Leave. Not fit for purpose. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 She was Europe Minister. She said she hadn't read the Lisbon Treaty, not many people have, but you might hope the Europe Minister might take a passing interest, and resigned her position, saying that she was disappointed not to be offered a more influential role in the Government, and feeling that she was involved in the Cabinet only in a peripheral capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted March 6, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted March 6, 2019 3 hours ago, blandy said: It does for the muppets part, but they research **** all How very dare you, they've been studying Dad's Army very closely indeed. Especially the opening titles. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 6, 2019 Moderator Share Posted March 6, 2019 18 minutes ago, peterms said: She was Europe Minister. She said she hadn't read the Lisbon Treaty, not many people have, but you might hope the Europe Minister might take a passing interest, and resigned her position, saying that she was disappointed not to be offered a more influential role in the Government, and feeling that she was involved in the Cabinet only in a peripheral capacity. She's in the same league as Nadine Dorries, the Thick as F***ing Pig Shit MP Conference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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