Peter Griffin Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Tomaszk said: We could get a proven manager We could but wasn't the strategy to get an unproven one and take the risk that he can work out? I assume we will give him some time to do this and if he fails we will sack him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 Would a loan not suit both parties better? We'd get to see what a season of playing regular prem football does to him and forest are free to improve the squad in other areas. We're not desperate for 10 - 15 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakotaVilla Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 It’s very likely that this is the most we’ll ever get for him and the upside of a loan is realistically very small. Quite frankly I’d be shocked if it’s anything other than a sale and it may be dragged out ala Mings to get the best possible deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLVillan Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 5 hours ago, nick76 said: at least we know he won’t score unlike other ex Villa players, that’s the upside! He'll score three goals a season and two will be against us. The new Shane Long.... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post peterw Posted May 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 31, 2022 3 hours ago, DCJonah said: Would a loan not suit both parties better? We'd get to see what a season of playing regular prem football does to him and forest are free to improve the squad in other areas. We're not desperate for 10 - 15 million. No, but that kind of money is reinvested into the Academy which then pays for itself for another coupe, of seasons. No point keeping him an extra year when he could either go back down with Forest and lose some part of his valuation, or he could get injured and be out for a substantial part of the season, again losing valuation. Both are more probable than possible. Sell now. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 8 hours ago, Davkaus said: Honestly, that's a bloke that's finally enjoying his football. If the money is in the right ballpark, he deserves this move. Good luck to him. Absolutely. After the game, he was doing the whole hitting the Forest badge on his shirt thing. He’s enjoying his football and I imagine he wants to stay at Forest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 (edited) Keinan looks more at home there i think. We never use to see this side of his personality at villa. He seems to like being the "big personality and star player" I think its a perfect fit for all parties. If forest go down keinan gets them back again Edited May 31, 2022 by Demitri_C 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dante_Lockhart Posted May 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 31, 2022 For £15m I think we have to say yes. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Bear Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 15m? I would take 1m for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talldarkandransome Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 If £15m is the number then we should take it. He seemed to be enjoying his footy at Forest and that might be more important to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 12 hours ago, DCJonah said: Would a loan not suit both parties better? We'd get to see what a season of playing regular prem football does to him and forest are free to improve the squad in other areas. We're not desperate for 10 - 15 million. It’s profit though, £10m and a £18m buyback clause sounds reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 12 hours ago, DCJonah said: Would a loan not suit both parties better? We'd get to see what a season of playing regular prem football does to him and forest are free to improve the squad in other areas. We're not desperate for 10 - 15 million. Would u pay 10m to 15m for him in this window? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zab6359 Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 9 minutes ago, Peter Griffin said: Would u pay 10m to 15m for him in this window? He'll go for between 5-10m, he's not worth 10m+ even to Forest 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 (edited) Wrong thread Edited May 31, 2022 by Vive_La_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 (edited) I think if there's a buy back clause it would have to be high to make the deal attractive to Forest, something like double what he'd cost Forest in the place so if we were to activate it at least they would make a decent profit, and we would know that if Davis did so well that we wanted him back then we would be happy to pay the clause, because in that scenario it will have meant he will have become worth more than the buyback clause. He might not improve to that extent but would be a good insure policy, Liverpool did similar when they sold Brewster. Edited May 31, 2022 by useless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 14 minutes ago, Peter Griffin said: Would u pay 10m to 15m for him in this window? Nope. But 12 months of regular Premier league football might make me do it next summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, zab6359 said: He'll go for between 5-10m, he's not worth 10m+ even to Forest I agree, but some people think we should hold onto him unless we get 15m/20m. 15m on our profit accounts make a huge difference to us. That gives us a potential 60m in FFP transfer fee allowance in the next 3 years. I would be madness not to keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Nope. But 12 months of regular Premier league football might make me do it next summer. If we wouldn't pay that amount for him then it makes zero logic to not sell him for that amount. A sale of 15m would be 15m profit. A purchase of 15m would only be a little less than 4m of a loss this year (but another 4m loss each of the next 4 years). Edit: If 12 months out on loan may improve him then why would u not want to purchase him and send him out on loan to be able to realise the same 'profit/benefit' as we would by keeping him? It would be a crazy speculative risk of 15m when just about all the signs suggest it won't pay off. We need to manage the business aspect of Villa well, and not selling Davis when he is clearly not in our plans would be bad business, particularly so, as Davis in potentially currently at his highest valuation he will ever be at Edited May 31, 2022 by Peter Griffin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enda Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 He’s a good Championship striker. He’s not getting minutes for a side with Danny Ings on the bench. We should let him go, for as much as we can get for him, which is probably £7m or thereabouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 21 minutes ago, Peter Griffin said: If we wouldn't pay that amount for him then it makes zero logic to not sell him for that amount. A sale of 15m would be 15m profit. A purchase of 15m would only be a little less than 4m of a loss this year (but another 4m loss each of the next 4 years). Edit: If 12 months out on loan may improve him then why would u not want to purchase him and send him out on loan to be able to realise the same 'profit/benefit' as we would by keeping him? It would be a crazy speculative risk of 15m when just about all the signs suggest it won't pay off. We need to manage the business aspect of Villa well, and not selling Davis when he is clearly not in our plans would be bad business, particularly so, as Davis in potentially currently at his highest valuation he will ever be at Or potentially after a successful year helping forest stay up and proving he's a prem player he'd be worth even more money or worth keeping in our squad as we look to challenge for multiple cups and potentially Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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