ml1dch Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Theresa May the latest rat off the sinking ship. Good riddance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 I always thought it was very moving the way she almost met the residents of Grenfell and then almost got something done about Grenfell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 38 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: I always thought it was very moving the way she almost met the residents of Grenfell and then almost got something done about Grenfell. Came across as a true Tory. Full on Maybot. Not an ounce of humanity in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicho Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Strangely I have some respect for May solely based on what came before and after her. Was she the best of an absolutely horrendous bunch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Danwichmann Posted March 8 Popular Post Share Posted March 8 2 minutes ago, Nicho said: Strangely I have some respect for May solely based on what came before and after her. Was she the best of an absolutely horrendous bunch? It's quite amazing that there has been a succession of PMs so bad that some truly terrible ones end up looking competent by comparison. Cameron and May are not quite as inept of Johnson and Truss, but that does not mean that they weren't both truly dreadful. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted March 8 VT Supporter Share Posted March 8 I assume it’s a case by case basis, but as a general rule of thumb, is it better or worse for a party if a mp stands down? I know if they’re standing down it’s likely not good, but I’m just wondering how much, if any, sting it takes out of a potential defeat for the party in that constituency. Because people might have felt “You know what I’m looking forward to? Giving Raab a (metaphorical) kicking on election night. That’s gonna be sweeeeeet.” And then he says he’s quitting and people might feel less inclined to give fresh faced Tory the same (metaphorical) kicking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 5 minutes ago, Nicho said: Strangely I have some respect for May solely based on what came before and after her. Was she the best of an absolutely horrendous bunch? I think it's fine to just consider them all *****. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 2 minutes ago, Mark Albrighton said: I assume it’s a case by case basis, but as a general rule of thumb, is it better or worse for a party if a mp stands down? There's a bit of incumbency bias which helps, probably name recognition as the main factor. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 10 minutes ago, Nicho said: Strangely I have some respect for May solely based on what came before and after her. Was she the best of an absolutely horrendous bunch? Although Cameron opened the door to Brexit, May imposing her red lines to please the far right of her party is what turned it into such a shitshow 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 (a reminder that People Polling should be given about as much respect and credibility as GB News) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 10 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: Budget bounce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 39 minutes ago, Mark Albrighton said: I assume it’s a case by case basis, but as a general rule of thumb, is it better or worse for a party if a mp stands down? I know if they’re standing down it’s likely not good, but I’m just wondering how much, if any, sting it takes out of a potential defeat for the party in that constituency. Because people might have felt “You know what I’m looking forward to? Giving Raab a (metaphorical) kicking on election night. That’s gonna be sweeeeeet.” And then he says he’s quitting and people might feel less inclined to give fresh faced Tory the same (metaphorical) kicking. I don't think it makes the most difference as people overwhelmingly vote for the party, or more accurately the leader of it, rather than the individual. This is often shown when for whatever reasons an existing MP resigns from their party to run as an independent and then almost always loses. Like Frank Field last time when he was actually a brexit supporter in a leave consitutency but still lost once he got thrown out of the patry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 23 minutes ago, Jon said: Budget bounce They are so bad that even giving away money is seen as a bad move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 I don’t understand what voters want sometimes. If you phone emergency services there is a decent chance they will not turn up. Hospitals are failing, schools are failing, they are passing the cost of local government on to us, so the swimming pools are closing and the sports fields are being sold for housing without amenity. They’ve just put some extra money in the pockets of people that earn £55k by increasing tax on people that earn £21k. Yet voters still aren’t happy. A fickle bunch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted March 8 VT Supporter Share Posted March 8 23 hours ago, Genie said: Why is London getting any money is my question. Levelling up was for the UK outside of the south east to get investment to “level it up” to the facilities and infrastructure of the London region. Not only is London getting money, it’s getting more than the entirety of Wales. It’s madness. They couldn’t even be arsed to disguise the Canary Wharf investment by saying it’s from another fund, they are calling it levelling up. What is it levelling up with? It would be like the PL giving out money to PL clubs to level up with the big 4 of 5, but then giving Man City more money than the entire bottom half of the table combined. You'd be mistaken for thinking that "levelling up" meant equating the levels of worse-off areas to that of more well-off ones like London. What "levelling up" actually means is increasing the levels of all areas of the country from their current state to an improved one. And by all areas of the country, that of course means London only. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted March 8 VT Supporter Share Posted March 8 32 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: Like Frank Field last time when he was actually a brexit supporter in a leave consitutency but still lost once he got thrown out of the patry. Ah, yes, Frank Field, I remember you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 8 VT Supporter Share Posted March 8 12 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: I don’t understand what voters want sometimes. If you phone emergency services there is a decent chance they will not turn up. Hospitals are failing, schools are failing, they are passing the cost of local government on to us, so the swimming pools are closing and the sports fields are being sold for housing without amenity. They’ve just put some extra money in the pockets of people that earn £55k by increasing tax on people that earn £21k. Yet voters still aren’t happy. A fickle bunch. Yeah but it would be worse under Labour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 2 hours ago, ml1dch said: Theresa May the latest rat off the sinking ship. Good riddance. She might be going but we'll still have the gifs! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Townsend Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Theresa May is the PM who defined brexit in a way that made it impossible. She went so far to the right she caused years of friction across Europe. Will never forget this revelation either which went down like a led balloon in Ireland 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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