Adam2003 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 4 hours ago, Czechlad said: So why the f*ck did we recall him? Even before Reina we had Nyland and Kalinic. Now we have Reina, Nyland, Sarkic, and Steer is due back soon. Ruining his career with our stupid decisions. “Ruining his career” by ending a loan with a Scottish club a few months early? A tad dramatic even for VillaTalk. Let’s just send him out on loan somewhere else now we have cover... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 On 24/01/2020 at 18:23, Adam2003 said: “Ruining his career” by ending a loan with a Scottish club a few months early? A tad dramatic even for VillaTalk. Let’s just send him out on loan somewhere else now we have cover... He was doing well in Scotland and established himself as their starter after a rough start. He was learning and getting minutes. Now he is back to being our 4th choice keeper, and the transfer window closes in 4 days. Even if we loan him out again, there is no guarantee he will be starting like he was. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Czechlad said: He was doing well in Scotland and established himself as their starter after a rough start. He was learning and getting minutes. Now he is back to being our 4th choice keeper, and the transfer window closes in 4 days. Even if we loan him out again, there is no guarantee he will be starting like he was. I see your point - I still think it was the right move but I hope he gets another shot somewhere for the second half of the season. Really unusual situation for us to lose both Heaton and Steer long term this season so certainly feel for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Just send him back to where he was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 4 hours ago, Tom13 said: Just send him back to where he was They brought in another keeper from Championship I think 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 11 hours ago, Zatman said: They brought in another keeper from Championship I think On 04/01/2020 at 10:24, rodders0223 said: At which point Livingston might have sorted themselves out with a No.1 It is hard for a young keeper to get games and this was ideal. As tempting as it is I would not have recalled him. Ding. Ding. Should never have been recalled. A Brucey special. Ruining the development of one player in the small, small, small, small, small chance we would need him to sit in the stand for a few games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam-AVFC Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 (edited) We’ve had “ruining his career” and “ruining his development”. We should send more players to Livingston if missing three months there has such a detrimental effect on a players’ future! Edited January 28, 2020 by Sam-AVFC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 5 hours ago, Sam-AVFC said: We’ve had “ruining his career” and “ruining his development”. We should send more players to Livingston if missing three months there has such a detrimental effect on a players’ future! It's dramatic, for sure, but it is very hard to find loans for goalkeepers where they will actually play football. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elton Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 (edited) Maybe training with Reina will teach/develop him more than another 4 months of Scottish football. Edited January 28, 2020 by Elton 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam-AVFC Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 31 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: It's dramatic, for sure, but it is very hard to find loans for goalkeepers where they will actually play football. Yeah I know and I did say the other day it’s a shame we recalled him early. Where I am more optimistic is in hoping that training with Reina will help him improve his game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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villalad21 Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 23 minutes ago, useless said: Yeah we have about 10 keepers so.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 Dont blame him. Yet again have a manager and CEO that pay lip service to developing youth then do the exact opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 i know goalkeepers develop differently to outfield players but Šarkić will be 23 in just under two months time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 They all are SGC, they all are I thought he had a real chance, I think it shows how good you have to be to make it here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 Can't we just say to him he'll be number two next season? Reina won't be staying, Heaton still not be fit and Jed Steer also gets injuries. Nyland done better this season but never seems to me DS has much faith in him. You could always sell one of them which we'd have to do anyway if we went down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 1 minute ago, VillaChris said: Can't we just say to him he'll be number two next season? Reina won't be staying, Heaton still not be fit and Jed Steer also gets injuries. Nyland done better this season but never seems to me DS has much faith in him. You could always sell one of them which we'd have to do anyway if we went down. To be a number 2 is quite a big responsibility especially for a young keeper in my opinion. We are lucky to have as many good keepers as we have 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 Reality is he's not ready, maybe not even ready to be a PL number 2 We probably shouldn't have **** him about bringing him back but it's hard to know how the Reina deal developed Its disappointing because he might get to a decent level eventually but again in reality he will probably end up at a mid to lower SPL team do alright and from there could end up anywhere Remember olejnik? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 1 minute ago, sir_gary_cahill said: To be a number 2 is quite a big responsibility especially for a young keeper in my opinion. We are lucky to have as many good keepers as we have Look at who hasn't made it at utd in the last 10 years Sam Johnstone, Henderson will almost certainly be recalled and then offered around for £30m, Tom Heaton, pereira (Portugals starting U21 keeper for 2 years) ohara (2 caps for ROI) Ben Amos, Ron Robert zeiler And that's just those who were 3rd / 4th choice, when you start to look at the likes of Ben Foster who played 12 games in 5 years in his utd career, the list of number 2s who barely played is even more impressive Its a hard position to break through 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Look at who hasn't made it at utd in the last 10 years Sam Johnstone, Henderson will almost certainly be recalled and then offered around for £30m, Tom Heaton, pereira (Portugals starting U21 keeper for 2 years) ohara (2 caps for ROI) Ben Amos, Ron Robert zeiler And that's just those who were 3rd / 4th choice, when you start to look at the likes of Ben Foster who played 12 games in 5 years in his utd career, the list of number 2s who barely played is even more impressive Its a hard position to break through I think you’re spot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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