Richard Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 He is still a raw talent which is why I do not buy the line which says it was not good for us at the time to try and use him as we were battling relegation last season. Boro are too but they are using him. Mis managment on our part pure and simple. not saying he would have saved us but it would have provided an oasis of entertainment in a season of shiteness and who knows may have encouraged him to hang around a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Remi was too afraid to use him and it's cost us. He clearly wasn't made to feel like he was wanted here and in turn he had no more desire to play for us. He would have absolutely destroyed this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Thomas Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Remember having this conversation with a few posters. Lightening! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 5 hours ago, DCJonah said: Remi was too afraid to use him and it's cost us. He clearly wasn't made to feel like he was wanted here and in turn he had no more desire to play for us. He would have absolutely destroyed this league. I think Randy stopped him being played to avoid triggering add ins on his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 9 hours ago, The_Rev said: Isn't Adama the epitome of why you shouldn't judge a footballer from a highlights video? nope, this is 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Never will be a world beater, but a mistake to let him go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 On 10/25/2016 at 14:46, DCJonah said: Remi was too afraid to use him and it's cost us. He clearly wasn't made to feel like he was wanted here and in turn he had no more desire to play for us. He would have absolutely destroyed this league. I may be misremembering but wasn't he actually injured for the vast majority of Garde's time in charge? 23 hours ago, PompeyVillan said: Never will be a world beater, but a mistake to let him go. He literally refused to get suited for a game. In no way was it a mistake to let him go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 21 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: I may be misremembering but wasn't he actually injured for the vast majority of Garde's time in charge? He literally refused to get suited for a game. In no way was it a mistake to let him go. I think he was injured at times. But there's plenty of reports around November and December of Garde discussing him not playing. He was terrified of losing rather than trying to win. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 On 25/10/2016 at 14:46, DCJonah said: Remi was too afraid to use him and it's cost us. He clearly wasn't made to feel like he was wanted here and in turn he had no more desire to play for us. He would have absolutely destroyed this league. Nothing Adama Traore did at Villa or has done since leaving Villa suggests that him not being used has "cost us". I quite enjoy the change of stance on players "not wanting to play for the club", though. For Gil, Veretout etc. it's "they don't want to play, they can go. Don't like them" whereas with Traore, he was the victim for not being "made to feel like he was wanted" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, bobzy said: Nothing Adama Traore did at Villa or has done since leaving Villa suggests that him not being used has "cost us". I quite enjoy the change of stance on players "not wanting to play for the club", though. For Gil, Veretout etc. it's "they don't want to play, they can go. Don't like them" whereas with Traore, he was the victim for not being "made to feel like he was wanted" I didn't say he's a victim and by cost us I mean not having him here this season. But he clearly wasn't made to feel wanted last year and I believe that's why he wanted to leave. I'd have liked him here this year but as with others if he didn't want to be here then he needed to be moved on. Edited October 27, 2016 by DCJonah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 On 10/25/2016 at 14:18, Genie said: I think Randy stopped him being played to avoid triggering add ins on his contract. I don't understand this mentality. What is the point paying so much for a player and giving him huge wages to come here, only to not play him so he doesn't hit his bonuses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 1 hour ago, DCJonah said: I didn't say he's a victim and by cost us I mean not having him here this season. But he clearly wasn't made to feel wanted last year and I believe that's why he wanted to leave. I'd have liked him here this year but as with others if he didn't want to be here then he needed to be moved on. Exactly the same argument could be made about Veretout. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 1 hour ago, Czechlad said: I don't understand this mentality. What is the point paying so much for a player and giving him huge wages to come here, only to not play him so he doesn't hit his bonuses? we did the same with Davies apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 10 minutes ago, Zatman said: we did the same with Davies apparently It's so stupid and I just don't understand it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 11 minutes ago, Zatman said: we did the same with Davies apparently And Hutton but then decided to go back on that decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 1 minute ago, Czechlad said: It's so stupid and I just don't understand it. It was already clear we were going to get relegated so wanted him off the wage bill plus Randy wanted to sell us. Giving Adama a bumper pay rise would have been a big waste of money in the scheme of things and made him harder to shift and worsened the Villa bottom line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 3 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: Exactly the same argument could be made about Veretout. He started 21 games compared to Adama's 1. I don't see it as exactly the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottingVilla Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 (edited) Lovely ball for their 2nd goal today. Who would have though it, start Adama and you get results! What a load of twonks that managed us last season. What a ball from Adama Traore Edited October 29, 2016 by NottingVilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 sure he only got 1 goal and 2 assists in his limited time here proves time and time again that Eric Black and Remi Garde were pricks or knew nothing about football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted October 30, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted October 30, 2016 9 hours ago, Zatman said: sure he only got 1 goal and 2 assists in his limited time here proves time and time again that Eric Black and Remi Garde were pricks or knew nothing about football And Sherwood ? From memory he hardly played him either . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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