VillaChris Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 On 27/10/2016 at 19:09, Czechlad said: It's so stupid and I just don't understand it. Obviously the plan when we sign these guys is they become key players and mainstays of our team. Davies was initially but after a few injuries and poor form soon fell well out of favour so I could understand why we froze him out especially as Lerner was starting to realise the wage bill was unsustainable at that point. We'll never know if Adama had such clauses in his deal but we didn't expect to get relegated when we signed him so the economics of him being here didn't really add up as much as I wanted him to stay and rip up the championship. Clubs usually only think best case scenario when signing players...it's funny how often the worst case scenario changes things dramatically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 1 hour ago, PieFacE said: And Sherwood ? From memory he hardly played him either . from my memory of last season which I try to block out. I think he got injured vs Notts County and dont think he was fit again until about November by time Sherwood was gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted November 20, 2016 Moderator Share Posted November 20, 2016 Still looks the same limited player to me, explosive pace but little idea how to use it and woeful decision making. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikantcpell Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 (edited) I much rather have adomah then him in the team. Edited November 20, 2016 by Ikantcpell 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted November 20, 2016 Moderator Share Posted November 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, Ikantcpell said: I much rather have adomah then him in the team. Likewise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Thirded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Reminds me of Tony Daley, all turns players inside out running the length of the pitch then hits the corner flag with a cross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Still would have liked to see what he could have done for us in the Championship, shame it wasn't to be. Nice that Adomah seem to be finding his feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Made sure I watched him today as he seemed to be getting a bit of hype recently and wanted to see if he had changed, he really hasn't though has he. Still very much run run run and then mess it up when it counts. I'm delighted we swapped him for Adomah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, Farlz said: Made sure I watched him today as he seemed to be getting a bit of hype recently and wanted to see if he had changed, he really hasn't though has he. Still very much run run run and then mess it up when it counts. I'm delighted we swapped him for Adomah. Me too, he does what he always does. Still young, but he needs to add a dimension to his game. Today thou they where up against possibly the currently best defense in the world (6 straight clean sheets) so can't really expect him to dominate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Very poor today but up against a tough team. He's been doing well and let's not forget he's only started 6/7 premier league games. All his worst qualities were in show today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 4 hours ago, TrentVilla said: Still looks the same limited player to me, explosive pace but little idea how to use it and woeful decision making. Scott Sinclair thread Is on page 6 I think now... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 (edited) Adama has frightening pace and do something incredible. but for me adomah has more to his game. He can cross, take players on, links up well with team mates (adama failed miserably at this) and creates chances for his attackers. For where we are now definitely feel we got better deal if you consider the silly money adama was on Edited November 21, 2016 by Demitri_C 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 but its all about him.....watched him strolling down the right side when his mates were launching an attack as they cut across the goal to play it out wide to him he was no where to be seen.....yards back. He has no positional awareness to link to team play. not for me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 15 hours ago, TRO said: but its all about him.....watched him strolling down the right side when his mates were launching an attack as they cut across the goal to play it out wide to him he was no where to be seen.....yards back. He has no positional awareness to link to team play. not for me. Yea I saw that on the highlights. If he had arrived on the 18 yard box as his team mate was looking for the lay off, he'd have had a really good opportunity to score. I thought he was very exciting to watch and a couple of times he burst past 2 players to get to the by line and get crosses in, but in those few situations, you need him to attack and he's stood on the line at the halfway line. It's very bad positioning that's making him ineffective, because he's got the technique and body to be the best. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 On 21/11/2016 at 13:28, Demitri_C said: Adama has frightening pace and do something incredible. but for me adomah has more to his game. He can cross, take players on, links up well with team mates (adama failed miserably at this) and creates chances for his attackers. For where we are now definitely feel we got better deal if you consider the silly money adama was on I like Adomah a lot but not sure how great he'd be at prem level tbh....if Boro had thought he'd be up to it they wouldn't have let him go. For all his flaws Adama could still be a fantastic player at the top level...there's plenty of wingers who have long careers at top clubs when their decision making is terrible....Jesus Navas is an obvious one in my mind and Di Maria has his days when he can't cross a ball. Main thing is he's actually being given a chance and starting games. Scandalous by Black to keep him benched when we'd been relegated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 He has bags lf pace and ability but at this stage of his career theres little end product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 (edited) Massive write-up for him in today's Guardian Quote Adama Traoré: ‘At Barcelona there was not as much focus on defending’ After once being billed as a combination of Messi and Ronaldo the Middlesbrough winger’s career is gathering pace with a set of more realistic targets Louise Taylor Sunday 4 December 2016 22.30 GMT Adama Traoré arrived in England trailing a reputation as an astonishing hybrid of Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo. Perhaps predictably, it did not take him long to disappoint his new public. “It was good to hear that from Tim,” says Middlesbrough’s elemental winger, diplomatically recalling the moment when Tim Sherwood, the manager who brought him from Barcelona to Aston Villa for £7m during the summer of 2015, described his game as “a bit of Messi and a bit of Ronaldo”. He added: “But when people think it’s possible that I can play like this, and then I don’t, those people question you.” Considering that Traoré is still only 20 and arrived at Villa Park having made only four appearances for Barcelona’s first team, it seems no surprise that he struggled to marry extraordinary pace and dribbling ability with an end-product. As the relegation-bound Villa entered a tailspin and Sherwood was replaced by Rémi Garde, Traoré became a scapegoat for the club’s wider problems. With his £40,000-a-week wage depicted as a millstone, there was barely concealed glee when, on last summer’s transfer deadline day, he was dispatched to Teesside in exchange for Albert Adomah. After a slow start, Traoré has begun Boro’s past five games, swiftly becoming a crowd favourite and lending Aitor Karanka’s side a more attacking, improvisational, pace-suffused dimension which has not only upset full-backs but also helped improve results. While everyone acknowledges that the elemental, force-of-nature aspect of his game needs balancing with increased tactical discipline, Hull City’s defence will not relish facing Traoré when they visit the Riverside for the “relegation six-pointer” on Monday night. “Aitor tells me I need to work on my tactics and the way I sometimes play the game because here in England it’s different to Spain,” he says. “If the team’s playing on the counterattack, I have to go back and defend. At Barcelona, it was a bit different. There wasn’t as much focus on defending and ‘doing your job’ when you didn’t have the ball. Aitor takes me to one side a lot and tells me the things he wants to work on. I don’t want to become a totally different player, but I know there are things I have to improve.” After coaching him in Spain’s national junior teams, Boro’s manager always appreciated Traoré’s true potential, always suspected that, supported by the right tactical scaffolding, he would flourish. “It was difficult at Villa because they’d struggled for two years and I’d come mainly from Barcelona B in the second division in Spain,” says this Catalan born-and-bred son of Malian parents. “I needed time to adapt but Tim Sherwood and Rémi Garde had to win games; they didn’t have time to think about little things about my game. It was a bad moment, it was such a hard, sad experience.” One point ahead of Hull, Boro have won twice all season but recent draws at Arsenal and Manchester City offer real cause for optimism. It helps that Karanka now possesses not only one of the Premier League’s fastest individuals, but also Europe’s leading dribbler. The latest statistics suggest Traoré has completed the most dribbles of anyone in the continent’s principal leagues, pushing Barcelona’s Neymar into second place as assorted defenders were dodged or simply bounced off his astonishingly muscular 5ft 10in frame. “People tell me I’m the first in dribbling,” he says, impressive biceps straining the material in his tight, short-sleeved T-shirt. “But it’s important that, after dribbling, I cross or pass or score. If I don’t, then dribbling is pointless.” Although others, notably Southampton’s Shane Long and Sunderland’s Lynden Gooch, have recorded faster on-pitch speeds in England’s top tier this season, few would relish racing him. “When I was at Barcelona Pep Guardiola told me: ‘You’re the fastest in the club,’” he says. “Maybe I’ll be the fastest in the world but it’s only good when you cross or shoot at the end. With the ball I can run 37kmh but I’ve never been timed without it because my job is to play football. I’m not an athlete.” Occasionally his feet seem to outpace his brain. “I sometimes make the wrong decisions but it’s because I haven’t started many Premier League games,” he counters. “I need to work hard on my technique but I think I’ve shown what I can do in my last performances.” In the process the name Messi has shifted from representing a weight on his shoulders to a shining light. “In training at Barcelona Messi worked hard all the time,” he recalls. “People would say ‘This game will be easy for you, they’re not a good team’, but he ignored them. Messi could maybe get away with not trying 100% because he’s the best player in the world. But he’s the first at training. He’s very professional. He was very good to watch and learn from. “A lot of players in his position would relax sometimes. But, because of how he works, he’s won the Ballon d’Or five times. I need to learn from this.” I suppose after all as inevitable he would spend tonight's match on the bench! (BTW I noticed the bit about him being on a £40,000 a week salary at Villa. For a 20 year-old with 4 1st class matches under his belt? Can only conclude that the club had collectively gone completely barking mad at that time.) Edited December 5, 2016 by briny_ear 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 I certainly don't know what he's done to be worthy of a fawning profile like that. I guess her editor finally told Louise Taylor to stop submitting 'Cattermole for England' articles and find another story in the north east. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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