Xela Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 23 minutes ago, Spoony said: Genuine question - why is his attitude criticised so much? Is it just the lack of effort on the pitch or have I missed something? Its just his turn to be the latest VT scapegoat. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 3, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted January 3, 2016 Just now, Keyblade said: And to think people used to slag off Ron Vlaar. I would take a half-fit Vlaar any day. Twice the central defender Richards will ever be. This season has proved what a hard time Vlaar got from the fans. He had his wobbly moments, and he was injured too much to be offered a new contract I reckon. But he was a good centreback for us. Easily better than anyone we have now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Vlaar was shit. But like with most players we replace we just get worse. He'd walk into this team right now but that's not saying much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted January 3, 2016 Author Share Posted January 3, 2016 i think richards will still have offers when we go down tbh. i think he would excellent in championship if we could keep him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stevo985 Posted January 3, 2016 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2016 16 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Vlaar was shit. Exhibit A. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 8 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Exhibit A. You kept telling us how good Guzan and Westwood were. I'm more than happy for you to disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 19 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: i think richards will still have offers when we go down tbh. i think he would excellent in championship if we could keep him I think he will be a key player for us in the championship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted January 3, 2016 Author Share Posted January 3, 2016 1 minute ago, Xela said: I think he will be a key player for us in the championship I dont think he will fancy championship though thats the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Another Prem team will sign him and won't be as stupid as us, and play him at right back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 3, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted January 3, 2016 7 minutes ago, DCJonah said: You kept telling us how good Guzan and Westwood were. I'm more than happy for you to disagree. How **** petty You kept telling us how good Sherwood was. lololol you were wrong once. Everybody laugh at him! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 How petty? Who started it with 'exhibit a'? You're more than happy to mock my opinion so I did the same. I'm not claiming I'm never wrong, of course I am, like every single football fan is at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 3, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted January 3, 2016 4 minutes ago, DCJonah said: How petty? Who started it with 'exhibit a'? You're more than happy to mock my opinion so I did the same. I'm not claiming I'm never wrong, of course I am, like every single football fan is at some point. I didn't mock your opinion. I used it as an example for the point I made in my previous post that Vlaar was given a hard time by fans. That's not mocking. You responded with your usual weapon of petty point scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 6 minutes ago, DCJonah said: How petty? Who started it with 'exhibit a'? You're more than happy to mock my opinion so I did the same. I'm not claiming I'm never wrong, of course I am, like every single football fan is at some point. He said there were people who were very critical of Vlaar and then you posted "Vlaar was shit" hence Exhibit A. There was no mocking. You couldn't turn down the opportunity to bring up something from months/years ago though 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Because he suddenly fancies playing at Centre back the club bow down to him and play him there, when he's made a name for himself throughout his career as a right-back. I bet there aren't any other clubs in the Premier, who would have done the same and it's indicative of why we're in the mess we're in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 18 minutes ago, Keyblade said: He said there were people who were very critical of Vlaar and then you posted "Vlaar was shit" hence Exhibit A. There was no mocking. You couldn't turn down the opportunity to bring up something from months/years ago though Anyone with a basic memory can remember a lot of fans were not pleased with vlaar last season. No surprise in who and how reacted to my post. And then takes the moral high ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTTERDAM1982 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Is it me, but are we worse defensively when he plays centrally? Okores would always be my 1st choice out of the current crop, and i thought he played well alongside Lescott, but not as well as he did alongside Vlaar.Him and Baker would be a good partnership in the Championship, the rest, as far as i am concearned, can go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phumfeinz Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Vlaar was shit. Our current defenders are even shitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Vlaar wasn't that bad when you compare him to Richards, whose defending consists of watching an attack develop then trying a last second lunge that looks great for tv. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KJT123 Posted January 3, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2016 I don't understand how anyone can call Vlaar "shit". He was a more than capable Premier League centre-half who was unfortunate with injuries. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnStortford Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Vlaar was fine for us. Perhaps a bit overrated after the world cup but that's not his fault. Richards however is an embarrassment. An awful awful centreback who goes on twitter and cries when he gets slated on Match of the Day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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