TRO Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 If losing to the leagues top teams was the only problem....the criticism might be unfair. But if only it was a simple as that.....it's much more and deep down we all know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.I.C.O. Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Yes - there are too many reasons why he should be out, all of which have already been covered - the worst of all is that he is a shit manager, his tactics are shit and we have made no improvement in his two seasons and its looking worse this season. In all honesty he should have gone in May. He won't go though, he's got a four year contract for failure on the pitch but he does his master's bidding and won't kick up a fuss, because he won't get a better or bigger job anywhere else. He won't go unless we get relegated. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Pulis? Moyes? the Premier League doesn't necessarily have to be a men's club for the same rotating managers. let's do a Spurs and look for a manager abroad, hell, football is still football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Where money has really ruined the game is when a manager is totally out of touch, he can't do the honourable thing and go....they have to hang on for the pay off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 There are more problems at this club than just Lambert. ....so let's make a start. The problem is that under the current circumstances I can't really see getting rid of Lambert as doing that much good, not because I think he's some sort of amazing manager but because I don't think we'd be able to find many qualified candidates who would be willing to work under the current ownership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginko Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 (edited) Would you ever leave your job because it was the honourable thing to do? Not sure why people think people in professional sports think differently to anyone else with a job. Hell, they have even more reason to stay than 'normal' people since they have six-figure payoffs. Edited October 28, 2014 by Ginko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Albert Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Just gotta go, tactically inept, way out of his depth. how he's kept his job for this long is beyond me. were the laughing stock of football at the moment. I've seen more fight in a dying fly just spineless. I just cant see where the next win is coming from. we are rotten to the core. Any team in the league would turn us over at the moment. Plonk us in division 1 now and i guarantee we would be in exactly the same postion were in now. This season will be the season we drop and i cant see us coming back any time soon. for the sake of our club something has to happen in the coming weeks. they need to admit they made a mistake and f*ck him off. get pulis in to steady the ship and go from there. Lambert maybe have a lot of affection for the club but if he cares that much he will walk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 There are more problems at this club than just Lambert. ....so let's make a start. The problem is that under the current circumstances I can't really see getting rid of Lambert as doing that much good, not because I think he's some sort of amazing manager but because I don't think we'd be able to find many qualified candidates who would be willing to work under the current ownership. Fed up of hearing this!!! Heard it all last season. I know for one thing, if the problems were sorted behind the scenes (if there are any) we still wouldn't be winning football games with lambert here. We need change and unfortunately at the moment its gotta start with changing the manager. There will be not regrets trying someone else, I certainly don't think we will be crying for him back!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rjw63 Posted October 28, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2014 Would you ever leave your job because it was the honourable thing to do? Not sure why people think people in professional sports think differently to anyone else with a job. Hell, they have even more reason to stay than 'normal' people since they have six-figure payoffs. Brian Little did . An honourable man and a Villa legend. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post drat01 Posted October 28, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2014 So the simple thought process is we keep Lambert not because he is any good, and at least we are now nearly all saying that, it's because some people do not think there are any other managers out there that are any good? It beggars belief really, it's like saying I will not treat this headache not because it hurts like hell it's because we may get another one later, so I will continue with the pain until basically I keel over ..... What the man is doing to the football club at all levels is scandalous - scandalous that he is allowed to get away with it and scandalous that some still apparently support his actions. How many more records does he have to break before people see how bad he is, how many more embarrassing defeats do we have to endure? How much more god awful tactic less football do we have to suffer? How many more players are going to be left bewildered by the mumbling fool and his lack of ability? We all know Lerner has a hell of a lot to blame for the state of the club, but Lambert is responsible for the playing side of things and at all levels he is serving up a dish that is made out of the cheapest, nastiest, ill thought out mixed up ingredients. The bloke is a disaster for AVFC and the longer he stays here the worse things will get and any new manager be it of any capability level will struggle to fix the mess we now have. This is so reminiscent to when GT Mk1 came in and had to basically re-invent the club at all levels 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 There are more problems at this club than just Lambert. ....so let's make a start. The problem is that under the current circumstances I can't really see getting rid of Lambert as doing that much good, not because I think he's some sort of amazing manager but because I don't think we'd be able to find many qualified candidates who would be willing to work under the current ownership. Fed up of hearing this!!! Heard it all last season. I know for one thing, if the problems were sorted behind the scenes (if there are any) we still wouldn't be winning football games with lambert here. We need change and unfortunately at the moment its gotta start with changing the manager. There will be not regrets trying someone else, I certainly don't think we will be crying for him back!! If there are any? I think it's blatantly obvious that Villa have problems that extend beyond the manager. Of course we need change, but I think it first needs to start with the ownership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Great post drat 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Is Moyes still on the Man U payroll earning silly money or did he get a fixed sum when he was fired? (As always I rather we looked outside the UK if we're hiring a new manager) might be wrong but I dont think any foreign manager with no UK mnagerial experience has ever saved a team in a relegation battle on a mid season appointment. look at Solskjaer and Magath last season Pocahontas at Southampton did. Pepe Mel at the Stripey Filth last season. Antonio van Pulissimo at Palace..... Southamtpon weren't in a relegation battle when Pochettino took over, although he undoubtedly did improve them. Pepe Mel is a terrible example to use though. Depends how you define relegation battle i guess. They were 15th after 22 games played, 3 points above Wigan & Reading in 18th/19th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Yep, top post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poitier Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Lambert is not able to get the best out of the players, that is obvious, but I do think we will be safe enough this season as long as our best players are fit at the same time. I'm not saying Lambert should stay, but I don't think things will be so bad from a league position point of view that he will get the bullet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 There are more problems at this club than just Lambert. ....so let's make a start. The problem is that under the current circumstances I can't really see getting rid of Lambert as doing that much good, not because I think he's some sort of amazing manager but because I don't think we'd be able to find many qualified candidates who would be willing to work under the current ownership. Fed up of hearing this!!! Heard it all last season. I know for one thing, if the problems were sorted behind the scenes (if there are any) we still wouldn't be winning football games with lambert here. We need change and unfortunately at the moment its gotta start with changing the manager. There will be not regrets trying someone else, I certainly don't think we will be crying for him back!! If there are any? I think it's blatantly obvious that Villa have problems that extend beyond the manager. Of course we need change, but I think it first needs to start with the ownership. Its going to be much easier to start with the manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Of course it's easier, but I'm not sure that will really solve much with Lerner still here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Of course it's easier, but I'm not sure that will really solve much with Lerner still here. Well, it'll solve the shit football served up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Lambert is not able to get the best out of the players, that is obvious, but I do think we will be safe enough this season as long as our best players are fit at the same time. I'm not saying Lambert should stay, but I don't think things will be so bad from a league position point of view that he will get the bullet. Chap! Have you seen the stats for our goals scored this season. We won't win games if Lambert can't get some creativity out the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Think Fox is the best hope of getting rid of Lambert (If that's what people want) he's spoke of needing to have to work with the right people to push the brand forward and also of the football having to be right to attract more customers. I don't think anything will happen yet but if the form continues I really think Fox will push the issue. But it's hard to second guess with the club being for sale, Randy might not want to give a new guy a contract when he could gone in the next 6 - 12 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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