heid3ster Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Oh, VillaTalk. Even when the majority of us agree on something, we still have the need to bicker and argue. Going back to the possession vs. creating chances discussion a few pages back, there is room for everyone to be right in this argument. Our problem is our defense. Our problem is our lack of possession. Our problem is our lack of chances created. Our problem is our inability to convert the chances we do create. Our problem is our lack of attacking movement. Our problem is our inability to defend set pieces and inability to score from attacking set pieces. ALL of that is what our problem is. Not one single thing in isolation, but all of it collectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 It is very unlikely Lambert will be fired IMO. You can't be so sure. Its very early in the season. If Lambert don't turn it around and we are sitting bottom of the table by Christmas, you really think he still won't be considered for the chop. Can't see it myself. Home fans will be going mad, banners will be out, attendances will drop further, there is only so much he and more importantly Lerner/Fox will be able to take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I honestly don't understand this. You're massively contradicting yourself. Last night we DID keep the ball better. And we created nothing (much). IMO you're the one who wants to go from crawling to running. Possession football isn't something that can be done at the flick of a switch. And imo there's no point concentrating on keeping the ball better if we're currently doing nothing with it. Again, I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I'm not saying we should be telling our players to NOT keep the ball better or that I'd PREFER to have 30% possession than 70% All I'm saying is Lambert shouldn't be telling the team that all they have to do is keep the ball, because we clearly have bigger problems than that. At the moment we look like we could have 90% possession and we still won't score. The possession stat is useless unless we're doing something with that possession. You're saying we can't eat unless we're at the table. I'm saying that if we don't have a fork, we can be at the table all we want but we're still not getting any food. How about if we have a knife and a spoon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Get the banners out for the next match - whatever it takes to get rid of Lambert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Would rather pulis' organised hoofball over lamberts disorganised hoofball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Would rather pulis' organised hoofball over lamberts disorganised hoofball. Agreed, at least in his previous two jobs his teams had some width as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roonst83 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 What bothers me is that under Lambert, Norwich were a team that entertained and played good, attacking football and would compete against the best, we're very tough to play at home and played with spirit and determination. We lack all of that and the past three years have been shambolic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 It is very unlikely Lambert will be fired IMO. You can't be so sure. Its very early in the season. If Lambert don't turn it around and we are sitting bottom of the table by Christmas, you really think he still won't be considered for the chop. Can't see it myself. Home fans will be going mad, banners will be out, attendances will drop further, there is only so much he and more importantly Lerner/Fox will be able to take. Also not to mention Randy wants to get rid of the club so getting relegated isn't an attractive option and he will know this. I don't think it will get this bad though surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Get the banners out for the next match - whatever it takes to get rid of Lambert. Upload a picture of your banner on here when you get a moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwpzxjor1 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 (edited) I can't decide. Whilst I'm not happy with the current situation, we started the season well. We've then lost to Arsenal, Chelsea, City and Everton - hardly a catastrophe. Yes, QPR was dire and the stats don't make good reading, but I think we're also adapting to losing Delph. Whilst I am not saying Lambert is absolutely faultless here - I can't help but feel it's a bit of a knee jerk reaction to the QPR result. I've voted to say keep him until January, but I have a feeling I will be one of the ones calling for his head come January (if he lasts until then). I just can't bring myself to call for his head for losing to 4 of last seasons top 5 (and beating the other). I think we'll have a better idea after Spurs, especially with it being a home game. Edited October 28, 2014 by Qwpzxjor1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heid3ster Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 In the short term, Pulis would at least get us organized defensively and make us tough to beat. In the long term, he would not improve our current brand of dull football. He also walked out on Palace two days before the season started because they wouldn't give him enough transfer money, so I can't see him wanting this job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I can't decide. Whilst I'm not happy with the current situation, we started the season well. We've then lost to Arsenal, Chelsea, City and Everton - hardly a catastrophe. Yes, QPR was dire and the stats don't make good reading, but I think we're also adapting to losing Delph. Whilst I am not saying Lambert is absolutely faultless here - I can't help but feel it's a bit of a knee jerk reaction to the QPR result. I've voted to say keep him until January, but I have a feeling I will be one of the ones calling for his head come January (if he lasts until then). My knee has been jerking since the summer of 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwpzxjor1 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Fair enough. Mine hasn't, which is why I'm sitting on the fence. The alternatives could be far worse. I get flashback to the McLeish announcement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 What bothers me is that under Lambert, Norwich were a team that entertained and played good, attacking football and would compete against the best, we're very tough to play at home and played with spirit and determination. We lack all of that and the past three years have been shambolic. Not making excuses - I'm quite open in my disappointment towards a number of the players who take the piss, on their extortionate wage. However, have you ever worked in an organisation that is uncertain of it's future? I've just started in one that resolved it's uncertainty about a year or so ago and the chaos as a result of it still exists. This doesn't fully explain why it's been woeful for three years but I am as mythd as you are about the difference between us and Norwich. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn1982 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Oh, VillaTalk. Even when the majority of us agree on something, we still have the need to bicker and argue. Going back to the possession vs. creating chances discussion a few pages back, there is room for everyone to be right in this argument. Our problem is our defense. Our problem is our lack of possession. Our problem is our lack of chances created. Our problem is our inability to convert the chances we do create. Our problem is our lack of attacking movement. Our problem is our inability to defend set pieces and inability to score from attacking set pieces. ALL of that is what our problem is. Not one single thing in isolation, but all of it collectively. Our problem is Paul Lambert!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 There are more problems at this club than just Lambert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heid3ster Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Oh, VillaTalk. Even when the majority of us agree on something, we still have the need to bicker and argue. Going back to the possession vs. creating chances discussion a few pages back, there is room for everyone to be right in this argument. Our problem is our defense. Our problem is our lack of possession. Our problem is our lack of chances created. Our problem is our inability to convert the chances we do create. Our problem is our lack of attacking movement. Our problem is our inability to defend set pieces and inability to score from attacking set pieces. ALL of that is what our problem is. Not one single thing in isolation, but all of it collectively. Our problem is Paul Lambert!! Yes, that's the part that the majority of us agree on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I can't decide. Whilst I'm not happy with the current situation, we started the season well. We've then lost to Arsenal, Chelsea, City and Everton - hardly a catastrophe. Yes, QPR was dire and the stats don't make good reading, but I think we're also adapting to losing Delph. Whilst I am not saying Lambert is absolutely faultless here - I can't help but feel it's a bit of a knee jerk reaction to the QPR result. I've voted to say keep him until January, but I have a feeling I will be one of the ones calling for his head come January (if he lasts until then). I just can't bring myself to call for his head for losing to 4 of last seasons top 5 (and beating the other). I think we'll have a better idea after Spurs, especially with it being a home game. I have been where you are for some time now, constantly giving him one more game, another window. Last night pushed me off the fence. He should be sacked. I worry about my Club the longer this goes on. I remember the last relegation - we will not like it! Even Lambert himself on the touchline does not looked convinced - very bad body language recently, and especially last night - almost looked resigned. Really looked as if he did not know what to do to stop the rot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 There are more problems at this club than just Lambert. ....so let's make a start. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 You can put up all the banners you can muster.....the only thing that will remove him is an absence of feet on match day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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