bobzy Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 3 hours ago, Zatman said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 31 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Undoubtedly thebiggest cause of our demise this season has been the summer transfer window. Who is to blame for that is up for debate. But if people are blaming Lambert for some of his poor signings under the same set up, then it's only fair to blame Sherwood for this season. No that's not true because Sherwood rocks and Lambert is shit because attacking football and let's have it and those bloody foreign players and not being backed whereas Lambert 2 years no progress Sherwood only 7 months so unfair. And Ashley Westwood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Should never have took the gig in the first place, that club from top to bottom are an(other) absolute shit show. Not the way to rebuild a CV and he has realised it and got out sharpish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 2 hours ago, Stevo985 said: Wow didn't knowhe played there, but certainly not a playing legend like lambert was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 1 hour ago, Stevo985 said: Undoubtedly thebiggest cause of our demise this season has been the summer transfer window. Who is to blame for that is up for debate. But if people are blaming Lambert for some of his poor signings under the same set up, then it's only fair to blame Sherwood for this season. I blame Lambert for his signings and Sherwood for his part in ours. Did we have a transfer committee under Lambert? I'm sure he had suggestions and players pushed towards him but was it exactly the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 2 hours ago, sharkyvilla said: I'm trying to think of his signings who have had a significant role this season. Really only Guzan giving away loads of goals. Bacuna being a clearing in the woods but even he I thought did ok as a fill in left back before Cissokho came back. Westwood I know a lot of people hate but I think he's been on the periphery of the chaos. Unless you count getting such a big profit on Benteke and wasting it on the wrong players as playing a big part in the demise, but that's not really his fault. Id say our biggest failures have been Hutton, Richards, Lescott and Clark giving away goals for fun (Okore less so but his behaviour recently has been poor), Gabby and Grealish being unable to behave, Guzan figuratively throwing the ball in the net numerous times, Gestede being a donkey and the French players not settling/the managers post-Lambert not using them. Guzan is a pretty big reason for our relegation. Bacuna is one of the biggest words removed of the year and Okore has refused to play for the club. Richardson and Sinclair are **** terrible players and Westwood has once again been poor. Our new signings have been just as terrible, some much worse and existing players have let us down badly. I'm certainly not saying it's all down to his signings, they've just contributed to the clubs demise. Just one of a few reasons why Lambert made us worse the longer he spent with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 28, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted April 28, 2016 1 hour ago, DCJonah said: I blame Lambert for his signings and Sherwood for his part in ours. Did we have a transfer committee under Lambert? I'm sure he had suggestions and players pushed towards him but was it exactly the same? As much of a committee as we have now. It appears it's been that way for a while. Yet Lambert seems to get blamed for all his signings and Sherwood gets off scott free with a lot of people because committee. The only difference was Lambert didn't moan to the papers about it like Tim's mates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Some of our most embarrasing performances and results in our modern era came under Lambert, surely that's indisputable? 15-0 over xmas 2012. Bradford (shudders) Millwall Leyton Orient. That ridiculous 7 game run....without scoring a goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 28, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted April 28, 2016 I'd say Sherwood and Garde had equally embarrassing results/performances. Almost as if there's a bigger problem! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 (edited) On the flip side we had the 3-1 at Anfield and the emirates. Edited April 28, 2016 by PaulC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 That last half hour against Bradford... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 28, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted April 28, 2016 6 minutes ago, coda said: That last half hour against Bradford... That was desperate. Lambert's lowest hour imo. It was like football manager panic mode when you don't know what to do so you just press "all out attack" and put all your strikers on and cross your fingers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 3 hours ago, VillaChris said: Some of our most embarrasing performances and results in our modern era came under Lambert, surely that's indisputable? 15-0 over xmas 2012. Bradford (shudders) Millwall Leyton Orient. That ridiculous 7 game run....without scoring a goal. think we lost 2-1 to Milwall, doesnt make it any better, also got a couple vs Bradford actually im making it sound even worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted April 28, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted April 28, 2016 3 hours ago, Stevo985 said: That was desperate. Lambert's lowest hour imo. It was like football manager panic mode when you don't know what to do so you just press "all out attack" and put all your strikers on and cross your fingers. I was in the Holte for that game. The worst game I can remember. Dreadful. I thought we wouldn't outdo the Blackpool game at home under Houllier, where I distinctly remember looking down at the pitch and realising that Blackpool, of all teams, were parked in our half and we couldn't do a thing about it. But that Bradford game. I think I've still got the flag somewhere, just to remember a freezing dreadful 3 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 On 4/27/2016 at 20:23, Zatman said: im sure they be happy enough to have their Premier League winning captain in charge instead of some negative Scottish lad So apparently a Champions League winner and finals MOTM is just some negative Scottish lad. Talk about bias Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 29, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted April 29, 2016 7 hours ago, Chindie said: I was in the Holte for that game. The worst game I can remember. Dreadful. I thought we wouldn't outdo the Blackpool game at home under Houllier, where I distinctly remember looking down at the pitch and realising that Blackpool, of all teams, were parked in our half and we couldn't do a thing about it. But that Bradford game. I think I've still got the flag somewhere, just to remember a freezing dreadful 3 hours. Same, I was in the Holte too. The annoying thing is, the first half of that game we played well. We did exactly what we should do against a lower league team. keep the ball away from them, pass it around and pick off chances. But then we conceded that goal just before half time, which was genuinely out of nowhere, and Lambert panicked. I genuinely think if we'd played the second half the same way we'd played the first, we'd have won. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 5 hours ago, Keyblade said: So apparently a Champions League winner and finals MOTM is just some negative Scottish lad. Talk about bias well if you find Lambert in any way entertaining then each to their own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 (edited) We played some exciting stuff in his first season. I thought we could build on that, but sadly we only got worse. The signings got worse too. Edited April 29, 2016 by PaulC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 14 hours ago, Chindie said: I was in the Holte for that game. The worst game I can remember. Dreadful. I thought we wouldn't outdo the Blackpool game at home under Houllier, where I distinctly remember looking down at the pitch and realising that Blackpool, of all teams, were parked in our half and we couldn't do a thing about it. But that Bradford game. I think I've still got the flag somewhere, just to remember a freezing dreadful 3 hours. I was there and fir me that was worse than the Doncaster farce under o Leary. Lambert humiliated us we should have won with ease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 What I find amazing about that season is that we were able to recover from such a terrible position of being dumped out of the cup by **** Bradford and being in or around the relegation zone. Even the players then had more fight than the words removed we have now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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