maqroll Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 18 years old, named to the England squad for the World Cup, and is looking likely to be scooped up by Manchester United for a small fortune. I've not seen him play, is he really this good, or is the hype machine in overdrive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I think he's very good but £27m would be ludicrous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnbull Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Could be a one season wonder. Bit too pretty for my liking, good defenders should look like Chopper Harris, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 13, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted May 13, 2014 He's very good. But 27million and 100k a week is enough to ruin any 18 year old. Hope he somehow keeps his feet on the ground 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 It is a ludicrous amount if money.. As with most modern defenders he looks better going forward than defensively (even albrighton beat him with ease). Still has a lot to learn. Like others said hope he stays grounded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Marc Albrighton > Luke Shaw Did nobody see the game at VP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eames Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 He's very good. But 27million and 100k a week is enough to ruin any 18 year old. Hope he somehow keeps his feet on the ground Crazy. The best RB in league (Zabaletta) cost £ity £7.6m. Is Luke Shaw £20m better than Zabaletta? No. And we wonder why clubs buy foreign over "young English talent" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikhInTrinity Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 He's a very grounded lad, when Robinson came on against Soton, first player to greet him was Shaw. After the match Robinson was doing his AVTV interviews, Shaw was waiting to meet him. But money may change him, but he's an outstanding prospect, think he should stay at Soton though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djamfisher Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Eames, the price of a player can depend on many other factors though, it's too simplistic to just put that comparison up. For instance: How long was there left on Zabaleta's contract? Southampton would be selling to a team in the same league, Southampton don't need the money thanks to Sky/BY. How desperate is the buying club, the age of the player, etc. Zabaleta came from Espanyol, not exactly a club in a position to be able to refuse such offers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I guess when you factor in, he will probably stay at United his entire career unless Real or Barca come calling. He will potentially be United's main LB for the next 11-13 years considering he's only 18 now. All this assuming he fulfils his potential of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 He's very good, although he'll probably struggle against 'genuine' wingers like most modern full backs, because they don't deal with them that often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 For an 18 year old he's amazing. Not seen anybody that good at 18 at left back ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Reposted from the Man Utd discussion If they do get Shaw the first thing they'll do is convert him into a CB. Ridiculous, it's like suggesting the first thing Tottenham would've done with Bale was convert him to CB, it ain't gonna happen as it won't get anywhere near the best out of him. If Shaw is to be converted to a new position, it's much more likely he'll be pushed further up the pitch to play on the wing where he can hurt players with his dribbling and pace. Not to mention he's not great defensively so would get massively shown up at CB. And I'm pretty sure Utd will buy an actual CB instead of spending £27m to play a LB out of position. I'm ready to be proved wrong. However, one thing Bale had at Shaw's age was long range shooting. Bale at 19 was already a free kick specialist who could score a goal. Shaw hasn't looked likely to score at all. With his technical ability on the ball though he'll be a top class CB. Man Utd need a replacement for Ferdinand and in Shaw they may have got him. Maybe he won't literally be converted to a CB by game 1 next season but I would bet that he plays some time there at some point, for example if couple CBs get injured. You would expect this to happen if they were thinking of him as a LT solution at CB. As for Man Utd buying a world class CB - remember they need two! Vidic and Ferdinand have gone. As for getting even one World Class CB over the summer, that will be difficult. Two? Forget about it. There are very few experienced world class CBs and those that do exist will want to play at a Champions League club next season. The only way Man Utd can quickly get a World Class CB is buying one young. Shaw is talented enough footballer to play any position. Nobody would argue with me Shaw can't play CB, the contrary argument seems to be that he's "wasted there." As yet although Shaw is quick and can short pass well I've yet to see world class ability in attack. He's not Bale. Does not look as talented offensively as Baines or Coleman, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 (edited) shaw isnt good enough defensively to be converted to CB, agree that he'd also be wasted there, very much a modern day full back agree about there being no world class young CBs around any more though, unless balanta is as good in reality as he is on FM, varane and marquinhos wont move to utd, when you see city trying to sign mangala for £28m you realise how bad it is, really short sighted from them, smalling and jones will be UTDs new CB pairing, with evans coming in off the bench and its going to be as bad as it sounds... Edited May 13, 2014 by villa4europe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted May 13, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted May 13, 2014 There are certain similarities with Bale. That wont help on the price front either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted May 13, 2014 Moderator Share Posted May 13, 2014 I'm ready to be proved wrong. Seems a sensible stance. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoD Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I can't believe anyone who has watched Shaw play would suggest making him a CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swerbs Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 He got nutmegged by Albrighton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Luke Shaw compilation video. Lasts all of one and a half minutes and contains 0 goals and 1 assist. Pretty pathetic. Where does his reputation as an offensive player come from? He played 35 games this season and scarcely managed 1 key pass per game. In contrast, Southampton's other fullback Nathenial Clyne ended the season with more than 1 key pass per game and 4 assists. Sure, it is only one season and he is very young. But at this stage all this abilities will improve, including his defensive ones, and I think he is more likely to end up World Class defensively than going forward. Another thing that makes me think he will soon go CB - this guy is big and athletic and at 19 is only going to get bigger. Like Ivanovic, he won't have the agility to play LB as his permanent position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Luke Shaw compilation video. Lasts all of one and a half minutes and contains 0 goals and 1 assist. Pretty pathetic. Where does his reputation as an offensive player come from? He played 35 games this season and scarcely managed 1 key pass per game. In contrast, Southampton's other fullback Nathenial Clyne ended the season with more than 1 key pass per game and 4 assists. Sure, it is only one season and he is very young. But at this stage all this abilities will improve, including his defensive ones, and I think he is more likely to end up World Class defensively than going forward. Another thing that makes me think he will soon go CB - this guy is big and athletic and at 19 is only going to get bigger. Like Ivanovic, he won't have the agility to play LB as his permanent position. Funny that you mention Clyne, I think he has been good for the last two seasons and is only 23. Don't see why he wasn't taken to the World Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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