djamfisher

Can't believe he, an Englishmen, who apparently is a big football fan, said that. I'm guessing he's a football fan in the same way Cameron is.

Fox, digging himself a nice big hole there then. Also, so the club wants to develop players, run better as a business .Fair enough, but all I can think of when Fox and Hollis say this, is, are they having a dig at Lerner for the piss poor job he has done until now. Obviously not necessarily meaning to. But I think you can argue they are.

Every set of fans, in our situation would do the same. Don't try and make us out to be some sort of idiots. The Baggies was a championship/League 1 side for years, when it finally got promoted a few years before the great escape. Thier expectations and experience were completely different. Trust me, if they were now in our position their fans would moan like hell. You may be happy to swallow whatever rubbish is given to you. Doesn't mean others have to.

He isnt that. Don't you think, just another layer senior management interested in the commercial side of the club (this is my concern and my opinion). My worry is, going forward, like now the balance is not right, in terms of getting the football strcture right. It clearly isn't now, with two unqualified mugs running the recruitment. I hope I'm wrong and Mr Hollis is strong enough not to believe the nonsense Fox feeds him.

Aonther Tom Fox, just what we need. Still no real football people involved in the running of the club. The balance between being run as a business and a football club is all wrong, and this seems tobe going in the wrong direction again. Time wil ltell of course, but i'm not confident.

A 2 game history is as good as general sale really though isn't. Apart from those who haven't had games allocated to them ever, you'd like to think there'd be enough demand from people that have seen us twice in about the last 5 years. I think there is; its just hard, this late in the day, for people to organise other things, such as funds, travel, childcare, time off work to collect tickets etc.

My mate got there at 6:30, was about 40th in line. Supposedly a lad at the front came from Croydon last night; got there at 2. Mate reckons there was about 250 there at 8:20.

Totally agree, goodness knows why they did it that way. Surely they have the data to know that many of the first few windows would only sell a couple of hundred tickets if that. Also making people wait until a couple of days before the game to get their tickets is harsh, as it's harder to arrange things, such as travel, child care, days off work to buy tickets, days off work to attend the game etc. So many reasons why the criteria thing was wrong. Also when the tickets first went on sale there were only one or two other games available to buy tickets for so the ticket office was quiet. I can only assume it was done that way to stagger the demand and to allow the ticket staff to breathe every now and again. I imagine they have about what, 30-50 members of staff working the ticket lines during this period. Good luck trying to handle 20,000 phone calls all at once. The point was it was silly breaking it up the way they did; no one mentioned that they should've let the 18,000 ST holders all given the chance at the same time. They surely have the data to enable them to break it up evenly over the period, as to ensure people aren't scrambling a couple of days before the game for travel etc. Common sense really.

Why? This is totally down to the way the tickets have been sold. There are so many people that want / wanted tickets. If for instance (and I know this would never have worked), they put them all on general sale (the same way they do for a concert or a festival), and it was first come first served, we'd have sold them all straight away, and then some. Yeah many of them to Liverpool fans, or fans of other clubs. Did you mean varied booking history, rather than general sale. Cos general sale would've cause mayhem. Prioritising ST holdetrs is fair; but giving them so long was ridiculous.

Totally agree, goodness knows why they did it that way. Surely they have the data to know that many of the first few windows would only sell a couple of hundred tickets if that. Also making people wait until a couple of days before the game to get their tickets is harsh, as it's harder to arrange things, such as travel, child care, days off work to buy tickets, days off work to attend the game etc. So many reasons why the criteria thing was wrong. Also when the tickets first went on sale there were only one or two other games available to buy tickets for so the ticket office was quiet.

How many peopel in total were down there at the end?

It's a reference number with 2 games from this season today. Woman at the ticket office yesterday seemed to think there is a chance it could sell out today; but i'm not sure. Got tickets in a £43 section, row 9. That suggests the row behind this are all available. Got them at 2:30 yesterday. She said they had just opened up the particular block; i'm guessing it's the last block now.

If you have a booking history, then you wont need them to go to general sale. You need it to go to varied booking history. if there's any left this is likely to happen Thursday or Friday.

Liverpool were charging £7 for postage; fair play to the lcub for not ripping the fans off like that.

Would I be able to phone up and go and collect after work, anyone know? Rather than wait til then. Not that it really matters, as i'm sure there will be some left. Just that i'm doing a favour for my nagging sister.