coda Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Easyjet changing procedure so there are two people in cockpit at all times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post blandy Posted March 26, 2015 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted March 26, 2015 So was the co-pilot a christian extremist?You're using the tragic death of hundreds, including children and infants, to make a point about your feeling of victimhood?That's actually made me a little angry. Disgusting. Do you have no sense of decorum? Or is your apparent victimhood more important right now?No he's not.He's making a point about the way the media covers stories differently ( I think).I'll be honest here, when they said "the co-pilot deliberately crashed it" I immediately thought "I hope it's not another Muslim crazy thing". Which probably makes me a bad person. Or maybe it means the endless stream of anything and everything bad being immediately tagged as "potentially suspected Muslim extremist/brainwashed" before any evidence exists has made me think like that.It's not about apparent victimhood - the victims are sadly spread over a mountain, or the families and friends left behind. It's about the way that religionists are responsible for all kinds of horrors, and that fears of Muslims are being stoked up without consideration for facts, as a result.When it's non-muslims, religion doesn't get mentioned. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Chilling developments. I don't think you can always prevent such senseless violence. You can minimise the risk but there will always be a possibility. It's simply, rather horrifyingly, in our nature. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrinityRoadSteps Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Easyjet changing procedure so there are two people in cockpit at all times. In time for tomorrow? I am flying with them!. Not that I will feel particularly safer if it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Easyjet changing procedure so there are two people in cockpit at all times. In time for tomorrow? I am flying with them!. Not that I will feel particularly safer if it was. Dunno. I presume it'll be cabin crew sitting in there while the other pilot takes a dump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted March 26, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted March 26, 2015 So was the co-pilot a christian extremist?You're using the tragic death of hundreds, including children and infants, to make a point about your feeling of victimhood?That's actually made me a little angry. Disgusting. Do you have no sense of decorum? Or is your apparent victimhood more important right now?No he's not.He's making a point about the way the media covers stories differently ( I think).I'll be honest here, when they said "the co-pilot deliberately crashed it" I immediately thought "I hope it's not another Muslim crazy thing". Which probably makes me a bad person. Or maybe it means the endless stream of anything and everything bad being immediately tagged as "potentially suspected Muslim extremist/brainwashed" before any evidence exists has made me think like that.It's not about apparent victimhood - the victims are sadly spread over a mountain, or the families and friends left behind. It's about the way that religionists are responsible for all kinds of horrors, and that fears of Muslims are being stoked up without consideration for facts, as a result.When it's non-muslims, religion doesn't get mentioned. The point is the same. I take issue that the first response by the poster is 'see, not all tragedies life this are done by my people, so stop saying it'. I see that as lacking class, and projecting perceived victimhood ahead of the tragedy faced here. There may be a valid discussion to be had there, but in the immediate aftermath? Your first port of call is to make a blunt and somewhat aggressively/sarcastically made point? I should add that this is against a background of similar comments in previous discussions in recent months, as well. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 (edited) Edit: Not worth it. I'd echo chindies post. If there is a point to be made then be more tactful about it. Edited March 26, 2015 by Ingram85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mjmooney Posted March 26, 2015 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted March 26, 2015 Yes, but. How many known instances of suicide bombings and similar atrocities have there been in the name of Islam? It's happening virtually every day. How many similar acts have taken place explicitly in the name of Christianity? There is no comparison. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzap24 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Yes, but. How many known instances of suicide bombings and similar atrocities have there been in the name of Islam? It's happening virtually every day. How many similar acts have taken place explicitly in the name of Christianity? There is no comparison. I dunno MJ, Christianity has had its moments over the course of history. They (religions) are all as bad as each other. So many millions of lives have been lost in the name of fictional characters and made up mumbo jumbo - it's the single biggest failing of the human race. If properly intelligent life ever does visit this planet, I don't think they'd be able to get their heads around it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted March 26, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted March 26, 2015 Sure. I always make that point about historical Christian barbarity in the relevant threads. But I'm talking about right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted March 26, 2015 Administrator Share Posted March 26, 2015 the science behind planes is fairly well proven "fairly"? It's time for automated planes. And trains. (sorry Nayson) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 So was the co-pilot a christian extremist?You're using the tragic death of hundreds, including children and infants, to make a point about your feeling of victimhood? That's actually made me a little angry. Disgusting. Do you have no sense of decorum? Or is your apparent victimhood more important right now?No he's not. He's making a point about the way the media covers stories differently ( I think). I'll be honest here, when they said "the co-pilot deliberately crashed it" I immediately thought "I hope it's not another Muslim crazy thing". Which probably makes me a bad person. Or maybe it means the endless stream of anything and everything bad being immediately tagged as "potentially suspected Muslim extremist/brainwashed" before any evidence exists has made me think like that. It's not about apparent victimhood - the victims are sadly spread over a mountain, or the families and friends left behind. It's about the way that religionists are responsible for all kinds of horrors, and that fears of Muslims are being stoked up without consideration for facts, as a result. When it's non-muslims, religion doesn't get mentioned. If it was revealed to have been done in the name of religion then I'm sure it would. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YGabbana Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 So was the co-pilot a christian extremist?You're using the tragic death of hundreds, including children and infants, to make a point about your feeling of victimhood?That's actually made me a little angry. Disgusting. Do you have no sense of decorum? Or is your apparent victimhood more important right now?No he's not.He's making a point about the way the media covers stories differently ( I think).I'll be honest here, when they said "the co-pilot deliberately crashed it" I immediately thought "I hope it's not another Muslim crazy thing". Which probably makes me a bad person. Or maybe it means the endless stream of anything and everything bad being immediately tagged as "potentially suspected Muslim extremist/brainwashed" before any evidence exists has made me think like that.It's not about apparent victimhood - the victims are sadly spread over a mountain, or the families and friends left behind. It's about the way that religionists are responsible for all kinds of horrors, and that fears of Muslims are being stoked up without consideration for facts, as a result.When it's non-muslims, religion doesn't get mentioned. The point is the same. I take issue that the first response by the poster is 'see, not all tragedies life this are done by my people, so stop saying it'. I see that as lacking class, and projecting perceived victimhood ahead of the tragedy faced here. There may be a valid discussion to be had there, but in the immediate aftermath? Your first port of call is to make a blunt and somewhat aggressively/sarcastically made point? I should add that this is against a background of similar comments in previous discussions in recent months, as well. Im not using the deaths of those people at all. They tragically died, now the media is talking about the investigation into why, my point was about the media bias and the co-pilots religion not being mentioned. This is a forum and this discussion is about the plane crash and anything related to it so im free to post my opinions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 So was the co-pilot a christian extremist?You're using the tragic death of hundreds, including children and infants, to make a point about your feeling of victimhood?That's actually made me a little angry. Disgusting. Do you have no sense of decorum? Or is your apparent victimhood more important right now?No he's not.He's making a point about the way the media covers stories differently ( I think).I'll be honest here, when they said "the co-pilot deliberately crashed it" I immediately thought "I hope it's not another Muslim crazy thing". Which probably makes me a bad person. Or maybe it means the endless stream of anything and everything bad being immediately tagged as "potentially suspected Muslim extremist/brainwashed" before any evidence exists has made me think like that.It's not about apparent victimhood - the victims are sadly spread over a mountain, or the families and friends left behind. It's about the way that religionists are responsible for all kinds of horrors, and that fears of Muslims are being stoked up without consideration for facts, as a result.When it's non-muslims, religion doesn't get mentioned.The point is the same. I take issue that the first response by the poster is 'see, not all tragedies life this are done by my people, so stop saying it'. I see that as lacking class, and projecting perceived victimhood ahead of the tragedy faced here. There may be a valid discussion to be had there, but in the immediate aftermath? Your first port of call is to make a blunt and somewhat aggressively/sarcastically made point? I should add that this is against a background of similar comments in previous discussions in recent months, as well.Im not using the deaths of those people at all. They tragically died, now the media is talking about the investigation into why, my point was about the media bias and the co-pilots religion not being mentioned. This is a forum and this discussion is about the plane crash and anything related to it so im free to post my opinions. Most Germans are religiously apathetic, so until stated otherwise, that is the default view of him. A generalisation itself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted March 26, 2015 Moderator Share Posted March 26, 2015 When it's non-muslims, religion doesn't get mentioned.If it was revealed to have been done in the name of religion then I'm sure it would.So am I if and only if it is established that the religious aspect was a cause/factor. With muslims, it's mentioned as a matter of course. But I accept I didn't word my post very well, but anyway. Making a point on a football message board after an air crash in Germany, a message board that'll never be read by anyone associated, and even if it was, the point made was not offensive, or insensitive IMO.The media often mentions the religion (or suspected religion) if it's muslim. it rarely mentions it in any other instances, these days. It's not truly even handed in that regard and YGs point was IMO a fair one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted March 26, 2015 Moderator Share Posted March 26, 2015 the science behind planes is fairly well proven "fairly"? It's time for automated planes.... It is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted March 26, 2015 Administrator Share Posted March 26, 2015 It's time for automated planes.... It is Why what do you know about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrinityRoadSteps Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Not trains though. If you don't mind. Not until I retire at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Appalled. Those poor people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Sometimes automated stuff goes wrong, sometimes people go wrong. We can't have neither so we go with what we currently have, a bit of both. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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