YGabbana Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Tragic events. Have the Dutch released any info on the downed MH plane yet? Or are the media still trying to push their agenda that Russia did it without any proof? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Definitely sticking to boats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Awful. It seems that there has been a load in the last 18 months or so, but I'm sure its no more than any other time in history. I think it's because they are more recognisable carriers, if that makes sense? Germawings, Air Asia and Malaysia (x2) - most people on here have probably flown with them at some point. its not that their more recognisable carriers its that news is more global and 24 hour news makes it easier to get the news as well especially with Twitter etc. It's not just that, it's also the sheer numbers of planes in the sky these days. The odds of a crash are probably as low as ever but we are rolling thousands of dice every day around the world. Just take a look at flight radar, it's pretty staggering how many are in the air all day every day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayls Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Talking of Air Asia did they ever come out and say what caused the crash ? It's not really made me change my mind about flying but my recent 2 near misses and these seemingly more frequent crashes of late does make me start to think I should get a new hobby What were your near misses Tony? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted March 24, 2015 Author Share Posted March 24, 2015 Talking of Air Asia did they ever come out and say what caused the crash ? It's not really made me change my mind about flying but my recent 2 near misses and these seemingly more frequent crashes of late does make me start to think I should get a new hobby What were your near misses Tony? Cockpit fire over the channel and we had to turn back whilst the pilot flew with a few instruments down ( mainly the only difficulty was level flight but as he lost the horizon instrument we initially dropped down from above the clouds quite lively so the could fly visually and you could smell the smoke from the cockpit at the same time )and then the other one the pilot aborted take off due to one of the emergency doors not arming and we had an engine fire as we taxied back to stand .. Turned out to be a leaking oil seal or something ... I still wonder what would have happened had we actually taken off and had the flame out , I know planes can fly on one engine but I don't know if they can take off on one engine. ? Neither what I guess you'd call life threatening in the scale of things so maybe near misses made it sound more dramatic than it really was ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Take one look at flight radar and the sheer amount of flights on there at any one time. Pick one flight on there and watch it to see if it goes down. That's the same odds you face every time you get on a plane, ie. Not very likely at all. Ps. I hate flying 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayls Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Talking of Air Asia did they ever come out and say what caused the crash ? It's not really made me change my mind about flying but my recent 2 near misses and these seemingly more frequent crashes of late does make me start to think I should get a new hobbyWhat were your near misses Tony? Cockpit fire over the channel and we had to turn back whilst the pilot flew with a few instruments down ( mainly the only difficulty was level flight but as he lost the horizon instrument we initially dropped down from above the clouds quite lively so the could fly visually and you could smell the smoke from the cockpit at the same time )and then the other one the pilot aborted take off due to one of the emergency doors not arming and we had an engine fire as we taxied back to stand .. Turned out to be a leaking oil seal or something ... I still wonder what would have happened had we actually taken off and had the flame out , I know planes can fly on one engine but I don't know if they can take off on one engine. ? Neither what I guess you'd call life threatening in the scale of things so maybe near misses made it sound more dramatic than it really was ... Both sound pretty damn scary to me!! I wouldn't have gotten back onto a plane.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Looks like that Alps crash was deliberate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Looks like that Alps crash was deliberate. BBC co-pilot wanted to "destroy the plane" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Now comes the question, 'why'? They did say the other day that a German airliner doesn't just crash whilst at cruising altitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Suicide? If so such a selfish way of doing it taking down an entire plane full of innocents with their whole lives ahead of them in the process is disgusting 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted March 26, 2015 Author Share Posted March 26, 2015 that's 2 pilot \ co pilot suicides in a year with MH370 .. ( although it's nothing new as Egypt air and Silk air also suffered similar fates off the top of my head ) but I wonder how long before they start looking to install over-ride features into the planes ? ..if that's even possible ? not just for pilot suicides but Air France was pilot error that possibly could have been over ridden as they tried to climb whilst stalled instead of putting the nose down to regain control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Or a way of guaranteeing access to the cockpit for the pilot should he leave. A key code or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Suicide? If so such a selfish way of doing it taking down an entire plane full of innocents with their whole lives ahead of them in the process is disgusting it could easily be seen as selfish, unfortunately, it's also got to be some form of mental illness Or a way of guaranteeing access to the cockpit for the pilot should he leave. A key code or something. if there's any way of getting in, we are back to square one with terrorists getting in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 I'm waiting for the reports that he was just back to work following time off with depression... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 26, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted March 26, 2015 It's not suicide. It's murder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted March 26, 2015 Author Share Posted March 26, 2015 Or a way of guaranteeing access to the cockpit for the pilot should he leave. A key code or something. I've been on lots of flights where they have a key pad ( on one flight i even saw what the code was as the stewardess punched it in and did a crap job of hiding it .. I was tempted to enter and say your security sucks , but figured it may be more trouble than it was worth in the long run ) ... but maybe it requires both to get in ? keypad and then cockpit confirmation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Or a way of guaranteeing access to the cockpit for the pilot should he leave. A key code or something. if there's any way of getting in, we are back to square one with terrorists getting in A keycode known only to the pilot and co-pilot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Iris/fingerprint recognition systems would seem a fairly sensible (but quite pricey to implement) way forward? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 26, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted March 26, 2015 Or a way of guaranteeing access to the cockpit for the pilot should he leave. A key code or something. I've been on lots of flights where they have a key pad ( on one flight i even saw what the code was as the stewardess punched it in and did a crap job of hiding it .. I was tempted to enter and say your security sucks , but figured it may be more trouble than it was worth in the long run ) ... but maybe it requires both to get in ? keypad and then cockpit confirmation Yep they have this on lots of flights. Usually when the seatbelt sign comes on briefly for no apparent reason. It's because the cabin crew are putting the code in and if you're sat down you're less likely to peek over their shoulder or barge into the cockpit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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