Zatman Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 To be fair to the majority of the Saints fans most merely wonder how they lost that game, a question 99% of us would be asking if the tables had be reversed. we have had our games as well though. Im sure some Arsenal fans couldnt believe they got a draw that Boxing day game when Knight equalised last minute. We battered them that night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 To be fair to the majority of the Saints fans most merely wonder how they lost that game, a question 99% of us would be asking if the tables had be reversed. I totally agree, but there's a line between saying we should have won that game and the attitude of the majority that think they should have walked to a 4-0 win because it Aston villa and they're shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Lot of bitter saints fans on saintsweb, I always have look around other forums to see what the opposition makes of us, quite a few "how did we lose to villa, we should be rolling teams like them over" comments and they have very short memories of where they were just 36 months ago. Does not shock me, they have been so cocky recently. I just kept saying "would be typical if we lose, we always struggle against smallbteams" They HATED that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Have to say Southampton have two great young english fullbacks. Chambers was great today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Osvaldo warming up for them aswelll...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Have to say the media wankfest over them is getting a bit tiring now. Yeah they're doing alright and they play decent football but they're not that great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 The hype is justified for their fully fit first XI. They have 4 really exceptional players who could easily be sold to Champions League teams. Shaw, Schneiderlin, Lallana, Osvaldo. They have Premier League guys like Lambert and Clyne who are top half standard, and young players like Ward-Prowse - who looks very composed and excellent passer - and Rodriguez - who's in the Shane Long "is he good enough for a top team?" zone - who don't look far out of place and will only get better. At the back Boruc is a half-decent keeper at this level and their two main CBs Fonte and Lovren - well I'd rather have them in the Villa back 4 than Evans and Jones of Man Utd. So they have a high quality XI. Don't have a squad dept to push for Champions League so in that sense the hype is a bit ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 (edited) They do have a good squad yeah, it's just the way everyone's suddenly spaffing over their playing style that annoys me. It's decent, bu everyone goes on about them like they're Barcelona or Brazil. They're just the flavour of the month. Edited December 8, 2013 by Mantis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 They do have a good squad yeah, it's just the way everyone's suddenly spaffing over their playing style that annoys me. It's decent, bu everyone goes on about them like they're Barcelona or Brazil. They're just the flavour of the month. The pundits are gushing because they're playing with a new-fangled continental system, even though it is only new-fangled to them, and is now well out-dated on the continent. Southampton are a Bielsa team. Bielsa’s impact on modern football is vast. Few Coaches are so frequently cited as an influence - in fact the words ‘Bielsista’ and ‘Bielsification’ have entered into the football lexicon. The Argentine’s ethos of aggressive defensive pressing with a high line, ball retention and verticality - not keeping the ball for its own sake - have helped make a decent Bilbao side appear formidable last term. Elements of Bielsa’s thinking have been adopted worldwide, most famously by Pep Guardiola, who once drove through the night to talk to Bielsa in Argentina. http://www.football-espana.net/26648/bielsa-and-athletic%E2%80%99s-principle-problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 (edited) I have to say, just watching Man City game on MOTD, that Osvaldo goal, for me is probably goal of the season. Exceptional. Edited December 8, 2013 by Seat68 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Watching saints last night I realised that that they do actually have some fantastic players. The fact we kept them very quiet now seems quite an achievement. Lambert played the perfect 'disrupting' game to nullify their tactics, something which not many others seem to do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosenthal Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 I have to say, just watching Man City game on MOTD, that Osvaldo goal, for me is probably goal of the season. Exceptional. Up there with the Kasami volley and Wilshere team pass and move goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Great goal. There was no mention of Chambers who is only 18 on MOTD but he was outstanding in that game. I think Shaw should be in the England squad. He's good enough. To me Cole will be found out. Against Germany he was a ,iiability at times. Hope Hodgson is brave enough to make the tough decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Great goal. There was no mention of Chambers who is only 18 on MOTD but he was outstanding in that game. I think Shaw should be in the England squad. He's good enough. To me Cole will be found out. Against Germany he was a ,iiability at times. Hope Hodgson is brave enough to make the tough decisions. I thought Cole had a good game against Germany. That said he's very lightweight, wide players are bigger and stronger than they were 10 years ago whilst Ashley seems to have lost a load of weight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 I think England would be insane to drop Cole: he is far and away the best defender now that Terry and Rio are no more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Cole is incredibly consistant too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 9, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted December 9, 2013 Cole is so consistent that he's now underrated, imo. He's still a fantastic defender. As good as Baines is, I'd still have Cole as first choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 (edited) Yes but he's not in the Chelsea team at present and I think it will be a mistake not to take Shaw. Out with the old and in with the new. Edited December 9, 2013 by PaulC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcTheObsession Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Where are all the people now who were raving about Soton in the first 10-15 games? Not even as good as WBA last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 They've hit the wall. Still can't see them not finishing in the top 10. They'll pick up when they have an easier run of games as they did beat Cardiff 3-0 away last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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